Author Topic: 52m - Fail to comply with prohibition - Newham London - Chobham Rd / Leytonstone Rd (E15)  (Read 445 times)

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Hi all,

A vehicle belonging to the registered keeper has received a PCN from Newham Council for contravention 52m – “Failing to comply with a prohibition on motor vehicles” at Chobham Rd / Leytonstone Rd E15.

PCN date: 29/08/2025

Contravention date: 20/08/2025

Location: Chobham Rd E15 (westbound)

Amount: £160 (£80 if paid in 14 days)

The council’s video evidence shows the vehicle driving through the restriction (between two planters where the “No motor vehicles” signs are mounted). However, the footage does not show the approach to the junction.

On checking the approach via Google Street View, there appear to be no advance warning signs. The only restriction signs are mounted on the planters themselves, visible only at the point of the turn and arguably too close to the junction to allow any driver to make an aborting or course-changing manoeuvre once committed.

Questions for advice:

Does the absence of advance warning signage provide strong grounds for appeal in cases like this?
Should the keeper submit an informal challenge now (before the 14-day discount expires) or hold off?
Is there anything in the PCN wording that should be checked for errors?

PCN scans









Images taken from PCN evidence







Video from PCN (expires in 2 days)



Street View links

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Street View screenshots (no advance signage)



[url]https://iili.io/KKFQRYQ.jpg[/img]

Thanks in advance for any support.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2025, 03:38:54 pm by AJB989 »

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So you were heading south on Leytonstone Road and turned right into Chobham Road? I agree, I don't see any advance warning signs on Leytonstone Road heading south or north.

However you can't say that the signs on Chobham Road aren't prominent. There are two each side of the road.

The PCN is dated Friday the 29th August. Get a representation delivered to the Council on or before Thursday the 11th Sep, ie within 14 days,  and Newham will usually re-offer the discount if they reject.

I'm not sure you have a good case with the Adjudicator so it's best to try and get the Council to cancel.

I would have a go. Something like: You were unaware of the traffic prohibition on Chobham Road, there was no advance warning as you approached along Leytonstone Road, I was committed to the turn before I could comprehend the signs, terribly sorry, this was an honest mistake, could happen to anyone, first offence, I won't do it again and so in in that vein.

See what happens. They might take pity on you or they might mess up the reply.

Post up a draft of what you intend to submit for scrutiny.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2025, 11:55:33 am by Enceladus »

yes it's agree. turning right across the carriageway does give more weight to the argument you could have seen the signs.
Enceladus advise is sound.
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Thank you both!

So, I was thinking of going with something like this:


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to make representations against PCN xxxxxxxxx, issued on xxxxxxxxx for an alleged contravention on 29/08/2025 at Chobham Rd E15.

On this occasion my vehicle turned from Leytonstone Rd into Chobham Rd. There were no advance warning signs on the approach, and the prohibition signs on the planters only became visible once the turn was already being made.

This was a genuine mistake, and the first time anything like this has occurred. There was no inteiton to deliberately disregard the restriction, and steps will be taken to ensure this does not happen again.

In view of the the lack of advance warning signage and the circumstances, I would be grateful if the Council could exercise discretion and cancel this PCN.

Yours faithfully.......

Let me know if this doesnt read well or could do with amendments!

Thanks.