Author Topic: Trafford Council (Trafford MBC); Code 01 Parked in Restricted Street; Elsinore Road - Charge Certificate  (Read 1133 times)

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Good evening all,

I'm really struggling with the formatting of this post, so will leave all of the image/ link inserts until the end if that's ok?

Some months ago I received a PCN from the local council which alleged my car had been parked on a restricted street during prescribed hours. Initially, I assumed this related to matchday restrictions around Old Trafford cricket and football grounds and spent some time researching and confirming that the road in question, Elsinore Road, is not within any of the Restricted Zones which are listed and mapped out on the Trafford MBC website.

However, I found one of your templates, which suited my situation and used that to appeal on the grounds that the penalty code made no sense and did not accurately and unambiguously show me what contravention had occurred.

The appeal was rejected, on the basis that double-yellow lines denote an area to be restricted "at all times" (choosing words carefully, so I do not make the same mistake of suggesting the whole road, as the fantastic template pointed out).

I have subsequently found the BOROUGH OF TRAFFORD (PROHIBITION OF WAITING AND LOADING AND PROVISION OF PARKING) ORDER 2001, which lists, seemingly, all of the traffic restrictions within the borough of Trafford, and which does indeed include Elsinore Road. My argument now is that the very specific restricted areas include a reference to the NorthEast carriageway restriction which stretches from the junction of Seymour Grove for a distance of 63 metres. The location of the car, using an online map measuring site (Calcmaps.com) was approximately 108 metres from that junction, and therefore appears to be beyond the restricted area.

I have attached, for now, both sides of the PCN, a picture of my car showing the location (in which it faces down the road toward Seymour Grove) and an extract from the Borough Parking Order 2001.

Thank you

NB: The format online was much better than the preview led me to believe, so I will include now a copy of your appeal template that I used...

Dear Sir/Madam

The alleged contravention did not occur. The traffic regulation order fails to define what a “restricted street” is and it does not prescribe that it is a contravention to park in a restricted street during prescribed hours.

Contravention code 01 was originally devised by the London Councils and reflected the fact that London council’s traffic orders made specific reference as to what is to be considered “restricted street”. This can be seen in the example below (for reference, Schedule 1 concerned No Waiting restrictions);

“restricted street” means any street within the London Borough of Lewisham specified in Schedule 1 (hereinafter referred to as a “scheduled street”) and includes, except where the context otherwise requires, so much of every other street within that London borough which is not a scheduled street or a street specified in Schedule 4 and which joins any scheduled street as lies between the kerb line of the scheduled street and a point 18.29 metres distant therefrom and any reference in this order to any restricted street shall be construed accordingly, provided that the expression “restricted street” shall not for the purposes of this order include–

(a) any area on a highway or any place within the London Borough of Lewisham for the time being designated or described as a parking place by any order made or having effect as if made under section 6 or section 45 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984;

(b) in its application to a street specified in column (2) of Schedule 5, that length of street which extends 18.29 metres measured in the direction specified in column (3) of that schedule from the kerb line of the scheduled street specified in column (4) of that schedule, and in this definition the expression “kerb line” in relation to a scheduled street shall mean that imaginary line which is the projection of the line formed by the edge of the main carriageway of the scheduled street adjacent to its junction with the side in question of any other street;

(c) any length of street designated as red route;

The London boroughs would not go to the trouble of taking great care to specifically define what is a “restricted street” if it served no purpose and was unnecessary. Without a traffic order defining “restricted street” then it is reasonable to apply common language. The commonplace definition of “restricted” is thus; “place limits on, confine, restrain”. Therefore, in essence, the PCN informed me that I parked in a street during hours that the street is subject to parking restraints. It does not however inform me of how the vehicle contravened a particular parking restraint or even what parking restraint was contravened. It is highly important to note that not all parking restrictions prohibit parking (eg: parking place restrictions) and so parking in a restricted street during prescribed hours is not a contravention by default since it can be lawful. It is only a contravention if the traffic order is drafted correctly in the manner exampled above.

A street is often subject to a number of differing parking restrictions. For example, one particular parking bay in a street may be restricted to permit holders only between the prescribed hours of 9am to 6pm while another parking bay may be restricted to Pay & Display between the prescribed hours of 8am to 6pm. However, a person who lawfully parks their vehicle in ether bay during the prescribed hours is doing just as my vehicle was also doing, that being, “parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours”. Quite simply, the ground stated on the PCN is not fit for purpose since it does not distinguish between a vehicle that is lawfully parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours and one that is not.

The use of this equivocal ground is potentially prejudicial as a person may prepare an appeal focusing on a parking restriction that is not actually relevant to the reason why the PCN was served. For instance, many PCN’s are served upon vehicles that are parked partly in a parking space with either their front or rear end slightly overhanging an adjacent single or double yellow line. Often where this happens a PCN is served upon the vehicle for being “parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours”. However, due to the diverse meaning in plain English of this ground, the recipient of the PCN may wrongly but reasonably assume that they contravened the parking place restriction rather than be aware that they fractionally infringed upon the “No Waiting” yellow line restriction. In the interest of justice a person needs to easily comprehend why their vehicle was not considered lawfully parked so that they can either avoid doing so again or gather the relevant evidence for any subsequent appeal.

It must also be remembered that the ground on the PCN will be repeated on the NtO and the owner may not have been the driver. Therefore, unless an NtO is accompanied each and every time by adequate photos of the signage, the owner when applying common language will not be able to deduce with certainty what parking restriction the expression “restricted street “concerns and was allegedly contravened. The general principles of law dictate that a person should not have to decipher the ground stated on a PCN or guess what restriction was allegedly contravened; it should be unequivocal. In a day and age when the UK is host to a wealth of visitors and residents whose first language is not English and when central and local Government both readily advocate the use of plain English on all public forms and documents it is nonsensical to use language on a PCN that is ambiguous or may require a person to refer to the glossary of a far away traffic order to gain a degree of understanding of what they allegedly did wrong.

The council may be using the standard contravention codes but it should be remembered that these contravention codes have no statutory authority and cannot be relied upon as a defence as made clear in the key adjudication case between Metrick v Camden (Case no 207034396A).

I find the ground of “parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours” to be unsupported as a parking contravention prescribed by the traffic order. The order may prohibit waiting in certain lengths of road at certain times but the order does not define and correlate waiting restrictions with being "restricted street" nor does it define and correlate what is considered "prescribed hours". It is critical to remember that the purpose of a PCN is to encourage people to park lawfully, so it stands to reason that a person needs to know precisely what they did wrong in order to avoid doing so again. The ground given on the PCN is ineffective in conveying what I allegedly did wrong and as such it does not satisfy paragraph 1(e) contained within the Schedule to “The Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007 and the penalty charge should be cancelled forthwith rather than drag this matter to adjudication.


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Initially, I assumed this related to matchday restrictions around Old Trafford cricket and football grounds and spent some time researching and confirming that the road in question

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You parked on DYL, 24/7 restriction and nothing to do with matchday restrictions.

The current penalty is £105. Therefore a Charge Certificate has been issued. I suggest you focus on procedure because currently you have no appeal or representation options and, if you are the registered keeper, are potentially facing a visit from enforcement agents.

There is an outstanding fine of £105.00 for this Penalty Charge Notice.
 
   


So, your representations were rejected. However, there are three stages involved with a PCN served to the car or driver at the roadside : -

1. PCN - which can be paid or informal representations submitted against it

2. Notice to Owner - sent to the owner as per the name and address on the V5C Registration Certificate for the car.At this stage only the owner can submit representation, or can authorise a person to act on their behalf, or the NtO can be paid.

3. Charge Certificate - sent to the owner if payment of the NtO has not been made, or representations against it have bee refused but no payment or appeal to the adjudicators has been made#

4.Order for Recovery - sent to the owner when the CC has not been paid and the council have registered the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre.

So the question to you is this - At what stage of the above did you submit your reps, at the PCN stage, or after receipt of a Notice to Owner ? We need to know if the council have cocked-up, or you have just let the matter rest after receipt of their letter of rejection.

We therefore need to see this letter of rejection, because at the CC stage you have lost all appeal options. We also need to see the Notice to Owner as well. If you never received this, then there is a stage to get the matter revertd, but we need to see the real documents posted here not transcripts

Thank you both for your responses and suggestions.

Taking the first response initially, o wasn’t certain if parking on the “other side” of a DYL (as if it were a grass verge for example) was the same as parking on the road where there was a DYL?

With respect to the second series of questions and comments; my appeal was submitted online after receiving the PCN. I can’t find a copy of the rejection notice and don’t recall having an NtO.

At this CC stage, even if the stretch of road is not covered by the council’s order, is my only option to pay the charge?

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is my only option to pay the charge?
No, not at all, because you didn't get a response to your reps against the PCN. So you can now ignore the CC and wait for them to register the debt at the Traffic Enforcement Centre. They will then send you an Order for Recovery, (£10 goes on the CC charge for the registration fee). YOu will need to submit a TE9 Witness Statement form.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/62e14db38fa8f5649f912647/TE9.pdf

The "Applicant" is the council, you are the witness.

With respect......

OP, your initial reps were nonsense if what you posted is what you submitted. Trafford is not Lewisham and references to London boroughs are irrelevant.

You received a reply to these initial reps, which I cannot find. However, according to you, you did not receive the NTO, hence could bot make formal representations and consequently a CC was served which you did receive.

Your witness statement grounds(once an Order for Recovery is issued)are therefore: Did not receive the NTO in question.

Keep your eye on the Trafford website and once the outstanding penalty increases to £115 come back here(the Traffic Enforcement Centre charge the council £10 to register the debt and this is recovered from you by adding to the penalty). Ultimately the council would issue another NTO at which point you could put your detailed argument regarding the traffic order.

https://pcnportal.trafford.gov.uk/VEH/Live/3sc/3sc-us/

And yes, the DYL apply to where you were parked. But whether there is an underlying restriction time will tell.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2025, 12:26:33 pm by H C Andersen »

I don't think the references to London boroughs was irrelevant or nonsense, though as it happens, I had misremembered and that is not what I sent originally but was something I found in the MSE forum (I think) and planned to reference in the next stage... but that is why I'm here seeking help, as I think the arguments put in the article I referenced are similar:
  • There is no detail in the contravention code or description which indicates the specific breach and helps a driver to avoid in the future (i.e. there are parking bays on Elsinore road and there are "matchday restrictions" too - albeit further along that road)
  • Within the Trafford Borough Parking Order 2001, there are measurements along Elsinore Road, specifying the length of the road where double yellow line restrictions apply - and my car was not within the measured area


Regardless, in response to the procedure outlined by Incandescent, I received an Order for Recovery on 07/08/2025 and submitted a witness statement, as per the link in your comment. I didn't get a notice of rejection and have just today received a Notice of Enforcement, from Jacobs, for the sum of £190.

Is there anything can I do now?
« Last Edit: September 15, 2025, 01:59:15 pm by Europlus »

Contact TEC and ask what happened with your WS submission.

It might be prudent to pay the bailiffs now to avoid the £235 visit charge. Paying has no relation or effect on a WS.

+1.

Pay the amount demanded as this caps your liability and is refundable if the PCN is ultimately cancelled.

BUT before you do can we look at this please:

I received an Order for Recovery on 07/08/2025 and submitted a witness statement, as per the link in your comment. I didn't get a notice of rejection


There is NO notice of rejection as it's not an appeal. IF you completed and submitted the WS in time, then BY LAW the CC and OfR are cancelled.

So:
On what date and by what means did you submit your WS;
To whom;
Citing which of the grounds;
Was it completed correctly e.g. signed by the person to whom it was addressed?
Pl post the Notice of Enforcement, both sides.

Thank you both, again:

The WS was sent by post (I'd printed it off for signing but couldn't scan it afterwards) to St Katherine's House on, or around, 18/07/2025 stating the grounds that I had not received a Notice to Owner and was, as far as I can see, completed and signed correctly.

I just rang (today) TEC to ask about my WS and they said they've been having issues with their post and they've sent me a TE7 which I will complete and send back with a copy of my original TE9. They will then pass that to Trafford in order to start the process again.

The Order for Recovery and NoE are here:

https://ibb.co/3m1MVNN1 OfR Front
https://ibb.co/ZpgD1558 OfR Rear
https://ibb.co/JFMqqK21 NoE Front
https://ibb.co/35h8QgB0 NoE Rear

In relation to making the payment, TEC suggested I could call Trafford and Jacobs to let them know what is happening and to see if they will await the outcome.

Should I pay in the meantime?

Thanks

I just rang (today) TEC to ask about my WS and they said they've been having issues with their post and they've sent me a TE7 which I will complete and send back with a copy of my original TE9. They will then pass that to Trafford in order to start the process again.

Do you have any of this in writing? If not, then IMO you should send your own confirming that TEC received your WS in time and get them to confirm.

IMO, your recollection of a telephone call would count for nothing with the bailiff and authority.

The NoE is void IMO and therefore cannot give them the right to demand the Enforcement fee of £235. This is because by law they must allow '7 clear days' before imposing the fee and the latest date must be stated in the NoE.

Clear days exclude Sundays and the date of service of the NoE.
I assume it was sent by post because it uses the term 'sent to you'.
The date of issue was Wed. 10 Sept, therefore presumed served Fri. 12th.
7 clear days are therefore: 13th,15th,16th,17th,18th,19th,20th.
The NoE states '6pm 19/9/2025'.
30 hours too soon.



Thanks H C Andersen,

I have submitted the TE7 and included a record of the telephone conversation and the postal issues at TEC. I’ve also received an acknowledgement for my emailed submission to TEC (now I was able to email the forms to them).

The enforcement order was indeed sent by post and arrived today, so I appreciate your comment that the “due by” date makes that particular demand invalid.

I’ll ring trafford tomorrow and let them know about the TEC issues and see if they would pause any further action.