Author Topic: 50L Prohibited Turn. No Left Turn - Emu Rd Junction Prairie Street Wandsworth Council  (Read 1083 times)

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Dear all,
We've received a fine for £80 dated 21st August with 28 days to pay. By my calculation, today is the last day to submit an appeal?
The driver didn't know there's a prohibition there, didn't see it and drove through.
50L Prohibited Turn. No Left Turn - Emu Rd Junction Prairie Street Wandsworth Council
Please see attached.
Can you help us find a way out please?

I seem to be unable to post the photos of the PCN. No where to attach so I've uploaded them to this long. https://imgur.com/a/F4kPj88 Thank you.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2025, 02:39:35 am by ChocolateGinger »

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You received a PCN for £160 (reduced to £80 if paid within 14days) with 28 days to pay beginning with the date of notice.
I make that by midnight on the 17th (yesterday), but see what the experts here advise. For their convenience I post the PCN below.

What happens when you check the online status of this PCN at Wandsworth's website?


https://maps.app.goo.gl/NzBizwTvisUnSFdr5
Badly signed in my opinion. A single sign place very high up, nothing on the carriageway, so you could submit reps on the basis of inadequate signage. See regulation 18 of LATOR 1996
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/contents

You need to get something in pronto, because you're over the 28 days. They may not accept your reps, so it's either cough-up or register and appeal at London Tribunals. They have no obligation to offer the discount, so if they don't take them to LT.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2025, 01:09:31 pm by Incandescent »

Tweak this accordingly. And get it in pronto.


Ground: the alleged contravention did not occur.

There is no advanced warning signage in place, while I accept this may not be a legal requirement. Nevertheless, this restriction certainly took me by surprise. ***********

Ground: the penalty charge exceeded the amount.

The 2003 Act states that representations may be made on “one or other grounds”. Clearly, your website only allows me to choose one ground. This is a clear ambiguity which must be resolved in the favour of the owner. Furthermore, the PCN states: “If the Penalty Charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, the charge may increase to £240.00.” Clearly, the period to which this refers is 28 days from the date of the notice. This flies in the face of paras. 5(1) and (2)(a) as provided at Schedule 1 which states that a charge certificate may be issued 28 days from the date of service of the PCN.

I have considered Adjudicator’s reasoning in Adam Jones v London Borough of Havering Case No 2190374806 in adopting this ground of appeal since procedural impropriety is not afforded to an appellant in this legislation.

Considering the above, I ask the the PCN be cancelled.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2025, 05:04:01 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Thank you so much for this strong reply.
Sadly, the driver has never appealed and I've just learnt paid the fine.
I suppose nothing can be done. I thank you again for your kind assistance.

So he's joined the Mugged Club.

IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r