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32d Shaftesbury Avenue Junction with Gt Windmill Street
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i did send a request to the council for the traffic order report on the 6/6/23 but still havent heard back from them. Is this something I can use?

Thanks


32d - Failing to drive in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign (proceeding in the wrong direction)

link to pics https://imgur.com/a/Rm4jpNM

link to vid https://imgur.com/a/Kgk5LlJ




Hi, ive been ticketed failing to follow the arrrows. I drove into a bus lane which I didnt see at the time. Can i contest this?

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Re: 32d Shaftesbury Avenue Junction with Gt Windmill Street
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Give us the PCN number and number plate.

The traffic order is The City of Westminster (Prescribed Routes) (No.13) Traffic Order 1989.

Have you actually challenged the PCN? If not, you're way out of time by now.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2023, 01:25:00 pm by cp8759 »
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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yes i challenged it when i sent the request for the traffic order.

and i thought giving out pcn and plate wasnt recommended?
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Quote from: NBSCMN on July 24, 2023, 11:06:30 pm
yes i challenged it when i sent the request for the traffic order.
So all you can do really is wait for the response.

Quote from: NBSCMN on July 24, 2023, 11:06:30 pm
and i thought giving out pcn and plate wasnt recommended?
See the guidance here: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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They still havent replied btw
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Video:



The PCN is at the £65 rate, which indicates a rejection might have been sent. It might be worth calling them to check if anything has been sent to you in the post, if so they might be able to email you a copy.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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I received this letter.

https://imgur.com/a/SECT5Ng
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Need to see what you wrote to them, please.
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I wrote what cp879 wrote which was asking for a copy of the traffic management order

Dear City of Westminster,

I have sought the traffic order for this restriction on your website but have not been able to locate it. The blue sign mentioned on the PCN is prescribed by Schedule 14 of the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016, and it is subject to General Direction 28 of that Schedule, which provides that "The signs may only be placed to indicate the effect of an Act, order, regulation, bylaw, resolution or notice which prohibits or restricts the use of the road by traffic".

Would you therefore please provide a copy of the Traffic Management Order that imposes this restriction.

Yours faithfully,
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any ideas? the 2 week period ends on the 25th
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bump please
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@NBSCMN you definitely want to appeal, not sure how we missed this before but the discount period on the PCN is wrong, it should be 14 days not 21.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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