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3 PCN in 3 days for 52M Barnet
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looking for next steps advice on this, i returned the stat declaration last week

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=147612

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Re: 3 PCN in 3 days for 52M Barnet
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Just to confirm, what reason did you tick on the statutory declaration form?

Also, did you tick the box at the bottom of the form for "an officer of the company"?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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ticked the box stating i appealed but had no response, the same on all 3, signed and witnessed by solicicitor

there was no box option for an officer of the company

what will happen next?
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Quote from: bennjiboy on June 22, 2023, 10:38:23 am
ticked the box stating i appealed but had no response
Are you sure? Or did you tick the box to say you made a representation to the enforcement authority but did not receive a response?

An appeal and a representation are two very different things, hence we need to know exactly which one you ticked please.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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i ticked the box that i appealed, but on reflection i should have ticked the box above that i made representations!

my mum got a serious health situation and is in end of life care and my head is all over the place - can i contact them to change this error?
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Quote from: bennjiboy on June 24, 2023, 09:21:02 am
i ticked the box that i appealed, but on reflection i should have ticked the box above that i made representations!

my mum got a serious health situation and is in end of life care and my head is all over the place - can i contact them to change this error?
Post up the Order for Recovery please.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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do i need to redact information?
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Quote from: bennjiboy on June 24, 2023, 08:34:07 pm
do i need to redact information?
Only your postal address.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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ok thanks, however just received notice for all 3 today

1. it is ordered that the order for recovery of unpaid penalty charge be revoked
2. it is ordered that the charge certificate be cancelled
3. this does not cancel the original PCN, the local authority may take further action on it. i can contact them, or wait for them to contact me

so does this mean it goes back to the original fine amount? do i just then pay that?

thank you
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Quote from: bennjiboy on June 26, 2023, 08:51:48 pm
so does this mean it goes back to the original fine amount? do i just then pay that?
No, stop trying to give money away.

Looking at the timelines it seems to me you have grounds to appeal on the basis of delay, which should see all the PCNs cancelled. Please confirm exactly which box you ticked on the form you sent to TEC, was it "I made representations about the penalty charge to the local authority concerned within 28 days of the service of the Notice to Owner/Enforcement Notice/Penalty Charge Notice, but did not receive a rejection notice"?
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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no, in my confusion i think ticked the box that states below, but i didnt make a copy but im 90% sure i did

i appealed the parking/traffic adjudicator against the local authoritys decision to reject my representation, within 28 days of service of the rejection notice, but i have had no response to my appeal

no excuse, but my head it in the proverbial shed, and i thought at the time that was the correct box, but on reflection maybe it should have been the one you wrote?
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Quote from: bennjiboy on June 26, 2023, 10:09:29 pm
no, in my confusion i think ticked the box that states below, but i didnt make a copy but im 90% sure i did

i appealed the parking/traffic adjudicator against the local authoritys decision to reject my representation, within 28 days of service of the rejection notice, but i have had no response to my appeal

no excuse, but my head it in the proverbial shed, and i thought at the time that was the correct box, but on reflection maybe it should have been the one you wrote?
I wish you'd checked with us first.

It is possible we might be able to dig you out of this whole, for now all you can do is wait and see what turns up in the post. The council will refer the case to the tribunal and the tribunal will require you to provide a copy of your appeal, which you can't supply as you didn't appeal. Not all is lost, I have dragged a case back from the abyss in the exact same circumstances below, it's just a bit of a pain to sort out all the paperwork. Just let us know when you next receive something.
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I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order
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ok thank you, it was such a rush in the end to do this i didnt leave time, will update when i hear back
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