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Hi folks

Thank you in advance for replies.

My daughter is going through a terrible mental health decline and has failed to open her mail etc. I have opened her mail and found several letters from bailiffs and council regarding multiple tickets, sadly I do not have them all. I have contacted the council (with letter of authority) to request that they recall all the tickets so that they can be totalled and dealt with. They have refused. Equally I have written to one of the bailiffs requesting the same, because they told her that they could take her car, which is on finance and sell it, take their monies and give her the balance. That bailiff was very intimidating and I have complained and requested the evidence of the "training" they allege to have to deal with vulnerable persons. My daughter's car is one of her safe spaces and she relies on it totally for school runs, doctors and any other trips to avoid triggering her anxiety.

Before trying to locate all tickets and post, is there anything I can do to convince the council to take back the various cases from the two bailiffs. One bailiff has been reasonable, but will not be forever.

I know some tickets are from the same place that I have had a ticket and the advice on here is that as there was no signage at the start of the road there is no contravention, but prior to that in the previous access road is another sign prohibiting traffic which is more important, but council don't refer to that. Although there are several all over the place, which could be when she panics she will pull over and breathe, or just park as close to where she needs to be to avoid any anxiety getting in and out of where she's going, but until I have them all I cannot post full info.

Any thoughts at this stage much appreciated.

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Consider seeking advice from Bailiff Advice Online. They are specialists at your sort of situation.

Please post up any Bailiff issued Notice of Enforcement that you have. Redact the name and address.
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You know we need more info to go on, so some legwork for you I'm afraid.

PCN issue dates and contraventions pl.
Dates of NTOs, if applicable e.g. parking contraventions need NTOs but moving traffic do not etc.
Dates of Orders for Recovery;
Dates of Notices of Enforcement(one for each PCN).

You'll need the above for bailiffadviceonline (BAO).

Has her medical condition been diagnosed BAO would need this as well.

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You know we need more info to go on, so some legwork for you I'm afraid.

PCN issue dates and contraventions pl.
Dates of NTOs, if applicable e.g. parking contraventions need NTOs but moving traffic do not etc.
Dates of Orders for Recovery;
Dates of Notices of Enforcement(one for each PCN).

You'll need the above for bailiffadviceonline (BAO).

Has her medical condition been diagnosed BAO would need this as well.

Thank you.

I don’t have all the info only some, the council have said X no of tickets, some with them, some with one bailiff, some with the other. I have just emailed to request all tickets so that I can get advice to evaluate validity. Fingers crossed they do that at least.

She is diagnosed with various issues, Bipolar being the main one, but PTSD, general anxiety, OCD, a type of personality disorder, can’t remember off the top of my head. It’s a long standing thing that fluctuates, but right now she’s on a complete downer triggered by various traumatic/stressful events.
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Consider seeking advice from Bailiff Advice Online. They are specialists at your sort of situation.

Please post up any Bailiff issued Notice of Enforcement that you have. Redact the name and address.
Thank you, I will take a look.

I’ve requested info on all tickets issued from council as I don’t have them all, I will do the same with the bailiffs.
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Time is not on your side.

Show and tabulate what you have.

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Thank you for reaching out, and I’m sorry to hear about your daughter’s situation. The stress caused by enforcement action can be overwhelming, particularly when mental health vulnerabilities are involved. From a legal standpoint, there are several immediate and longer-term steps you may take.

Although councils often claim they cannot recall debts once passed to bailiffs, this is not strictly true. Councils retain the discretion to request that enforcement be withdrawn and for the debt to be returned to them, especially where there are compelling welfare grounds. A formal vulnerability complaint should be made to both the council and the bailiffs, explaining your daughter’s mental health condition, supported by medical evidence if available. You should also state clearly why she is unable to engage directly and that her condition is worsened by the enforcement action itself.

It would be appropriate to request that the cases be placed on hold pending a full review under the council’s vulnerability and safeguarding policy. Councils have a duty under the Equality Act 2010 to make reasonable adjustments where someone is disabled or experiencing serious mental health difficulties. The bailiffs also have a duty to refer such cases back to the creditor under Regulation 10 of the Taking Control of Goods Regulations 2013 where enforcement action is inappropriate.

Regarding the finance vehicle, a bailiff cannot lawfully take control of it if your daughter is not the legal owner, even if it is registered in her name. If the vehicle is subject to a hire purchase or conditional sale agreement, the finance company remains the legal owner until the final payment is made. It would be helpful to obtain a copy of the finance agreement to prove this. If the bailiff has threatened to sell the car without acknowledging this, it may amount to a breach of their professional duties and an abuse of process, particularly in light of her vulnerability.

On the issue of signage and PCN validity, once you have located all the notices, you may be able to challenge the underlying liability, especially if the signage was unclear or contradictory. For the time being, however, your focus should be on freezing enforcement action and consolidating the situation. Councils may agree to place all cases on hold while a vulnerable person’s circumstances are assessed, even if they refuse to formally recall them. It helps to remain persistent and escalate to senior officers if needed.

If the bailiff behaviour has been intimidating, you are right to file a complaint. You can also request a copy of their body-worn camera footage under the Data Protection Act 2018. Asking for details of the training they claim to have had in dealing with vulnerable individuals is entirely appropriate and will add weight to your complaint if they fail to provide it.

Should the council remain uncooperative, consider writing to your local councillor or MP to intervene. Mental health vulnerability is a recognised reason to suspend enforcement, and where ignored, it can expose councils and enforcement companies to legal liability. You may also wish to explore obtaining debt advice or legal support from a welfare rights service or mental health advocacy group if further pressure is needed.

Once you have all the paperwork and PCNs gathered, it will be easier to assess which can be challenged and which may require a repayment plan or appeal. In the meantime, your priority should be securing a pause on enforcement while your daughter’s needs are properly considered.

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Thank you.

I don’t have all the info only some, the council have said X no of tickets, some with them, some with one bailiff, some with the other. I have just emailed to request all tickets so that I can get advice to evaluate validity. Fingers crossed they do that at least.

She is diagnosed with various issues, Bipolar being the main one, but PTSD, general anxiety, OCD, a type of personality disorder, can’t remember off the top of my head. It’s a long standing thing that fluctuates, but right now she’s on a complete downer triggered by various traumatic/stressful events.
W

It is very important indeed to find out which PCN's are still with the council and at what stage they are at (Charge Certificate/Order or Recovery etc).

Which local authority have issued PCN's against your daughter?

Given your daughters circumstances, is she in receipt of any benefits?
Does she work?
Is she a single parent?

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Thank you.

I don’t have all the info only some, the council have said X no of tickets, some with them, some with one bailiff, some with the other. I have just emailed to request all tickets so that I can get advice to evaluate validity. Fingers crossed they do that at least.

She is diagnosed with various issues, Bipolar being the main one, but PTSD, general anxiety, OCD, a type of personality disorder, can’t remember off the top of my head. It’s a long standing thing that fluctuates, but right now she’s on a complete downer triggered by various traumatic/stressful events.
W

It is very important indeed to find out which PCN's are still with the council and at what stage they are at (Charge Certificate/Order or Recovery etc).

Which local authority have issued PCN's against your daughter?

Given your daughters circumstances, is she in receipt of any benefits?
Does she work?
Is she a single parent?

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Worthing council, hopefully will get a list shortly, I don't have everything, only what I have been able to find.
She is self employed as a landlord, which helps with flexibility and lack of contact with people, most things can be dealt with at the end of a phone without leaving the house, but her confidence when she is in a manic stage, ie, I dont need benefits, I'm okay now type of attitude saw her refusing benefits going forward. She lost her PIP for lack of reply and I am no longer her appointee, so unable to help on that front. Yes she is a single parent, 3 children, one child on the spectrum, the other two probably ADHD, the youngest only 2.