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The advice at this, the Compliance stage of the process, is indeed to pay to avoid further charges; the bailiffs part of the sum demanded is £140 the legal compliance stage fee. Submission of an out-of-time Witness Statement (one for each PCN), is not affected by your paying the bailiffs. Incidentally, bailiffs are now legally called "enforcement agents" since 2014.

Whether an OOT WS would succeed is moot, because you have not updated your V5C for 7 months, so you would need a cast-iron reason for not doing so. Have you such a reason ?

If you don't pay, they can visit and add on £235 per PCN, and finally start to take control of your property. Your car is likely first for seizure, because they can only seize goods at the address on the warrant, plus goods on the highway.

Extract from Schedule 12 of the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007

Goods which may be taken
9An enforcement agent may take control of goods only if they are—

(a)on premises that he has power to enter under this Schedule, or

(b)on a highway.

Incandescent has made a typo. The Bailiff Compliance Stage fees for the Notices of Enforcement total £150 (2 x £75).

When enforcing more than one PCN the bailiff can only charge the Enforcement Stage fee of £235 once, this applies here.

You're right a PCN should have been stuck to your windscreen for the parking contravention. When that wasn't paid or challenged a Notice to Owner would have been posted to the registered keeper to the address held by the DVLA. The NTO couldn't have been issued and posted until after you moved, so an OOT application might stand more chance.

If your Out of Time applications were successful then you would be put put back to the NTO stage for the parking contravention and the postal PCN for the bus lane contravention.

You'll need a very good explanation as to why you are late with your Statutory Declaration and Witness Statements.

If there are any outstanding PCNs out there then the notices would have gone to the old RK address. This is because the Enforcement Authorities would have asked the DVLA for the RK details that applied on the date of contravention. Updating your address won't on it's own cause them to be redirected to your new address.

Any new contraventions, those that occur after you've updated your address, would go to the updated address.

Incandescent has made a typo. The Bailiff Compliance Stage fees for the Notices of Enforcement total £150 (2 x £75).

When enforcing more than one PCN the bailiff can only charge the Enforcement Stage fee of £235 once, this applies here.

You're right a PCN should have been stuck to your windscreen for the parking contravention. When that wasn't paid or challenged a Notice to Owner would have been posted to the registered keeper to the address held by the DVLA. The NTO couldn't have been issued and posted until after you moved, so an OOT application might stand more chance.

If your Out of Time applications were successful then you would be put put back to the NTO stage for the parking contravention and the postal PCN for the bus lane contravention.

You'll need a very good explanation as to why you are late with your Statutory Declaration and Witness Statements.

If there are any outstanding PCNs out there then the notices would have gone to the old RK address. This is because the Enforcement Authorities would have asked the DVLA for the RK details that applied on the date of contravention. Updating your address won't on it's own cause them to be redirected to your new address.

Any new contraventions, those that occur after you've updated your address, would go to the updated address.

does ADHD (NHS diagnosed/repeat prescription for treatment) count as a very good explanation/defene? I don't want to waste my time if the chances are low

OP, as the authority must use your DVLA keeper address as at the date of the contravention for all posted notices(in this case the NTO, Charge Cert and OfR for parking and postal PCN, CC and OfR for the bus lane) then it's the dates of the first of these which are important. How much you can make of this depends upon the dates themselves.

Nothing in the NoEs gives you these dates, so get online and see if the NTO and postal PCN issue dates are given. If not, find out from the authority - just ask for the info, not copies, and pl don't be tempted to discuss the contraventions.

By "get online" do you mean check if I can see info on https://parking.liverpool.gov.uk/pcn/?

Although changing keeper address data may be done online, it may also be done by post. Nothing is held against an individual who chooses the latter.

The official advice from DVLA is that if you have not received your new log book within 4 weeks then contact them. I read this to mean than a period of 4 weeks is taken as being a limbo period and while I don't have specifics from the Traffic Enforcement Centre(to whom you would submit your OOTs) I would be surprised if they don't have a similar period.
Remember, if an authority requests keeper info while a change is being processed then the old and out of date info would be supplied. DVLA doesn't write to authorities after the event and say 'you know that RK address we gave you on 5 October for a contravention on 8 August, well we've changed it now w.e.f 7 August.'

Dates, dates, dates pl.

Your question cannot be answered without these.

Does this still matter if I only just updated the V5C now ? i.e. if the dates you mention are before/close to my moving date then the case is stronger because I would still be in this position had I updated my V5C on time?

Does this still matter if I only just updated the V5C now

YES. As I explained in detail, even if you had changed your RK address the day after the NTO and postal PCN were issued it would have been too late. Only the address at the time of the breaches may be and is used by the authority.

The enforcement agent may and does use other tracing methods and databases. Two different pieces of legislation.

Would you pl just get online or phone them and come back with what's required.

There is no possibility of a CCJ in the enforcement process.

Doing some of the legwork for *****7044....

7044  - date of contravention 31/3/2024
        PCN issued 5/4/2024

5576  - date of contravention 19/2/2024
        NTO issued 21/3/2024

You moved 8 March 2024.

7044
I was first alerted to this PCN when I received a Notice of Enforcement to my current(that is new) address on ***. I had no prior knowledge of this PCN and my subsequent investigation has shown why.

The PCN was issued by post on 5 April 2024 using my DVLA address as at the date of contravention, that is 31 March 2024. Unfortunately, I had moved a few weeks earlier (see attached evidence) on 8 March and the necessary changes had not been processed, therefore the PCN was not received nor any subsequent notices.

5576
I was first alerted to this PCN when I received a Notice of Enforcement to my current(that is new) address on ***. I had no prior knowledge of this PCN and my subsequent investigation has shown why.

The council's records show that a PCN was served on 19 Feb. 2024, unfortunately this was not received by the driver otherwise in representations I could have alerted the council to my impending move on 8 March(see attached evidence). Consequently the NTO which was issued on 21 March 2024 was not received nor any of the subsequent notices.

Short and to the point for I would suggest separate OOTs.

What evidence do you have of your move?

Wait for others.