Hi, as you said, they pretty much ignored everything I said and responded with. I've copied their email response at the bottom of my post below, but would like to just ask about one point I'm making which is contradictory to theirs:
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UKPC: "When parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are entering a contract and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract"
My Response: "The “my tenancy is the only contract that matters” point still stands, even if your landlord has signed a contract with UKPC. The landowner/landlord giving UKPC authority to operate on the site is a completely different thing from you, as tenant, agreeing to pay UKPC for using your own bay.
UKPC’s landowner contract only does one thing that matters here. It shows the landowner has authorised UKPC to operate a scheme and issue charges to people who breach whatever terms apply.
It does not create any contractual obligation from you, the tenant, to UKPC; or override or vary the terms of your tenancy; or allow the landlord to “take back” your parking space and turn it into a pay-per-breach trap."
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Regardless of the fact that the parking notice and subsequent emails reference the car being parked in a different place than the pictures show, am I right in saying if this one does go all the way, the judgement will probably come down to whoever is interpreting this particular aspect of the claim/defence?
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Our ref: XXXXXXXXXXX
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Dear XXX
We write in response to your correspondence received in our office.
We now respond to the same as follows.
When parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are entering a contract and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract. The Parking Charge was issued for "Parked in a Permit Area Without Displaying a Permit."
Our client will ensure that there are signs clearly displayed on the land, outlining the terms of the parking. These will generally be displayed at the entrance and exit of the land/ car park, as well as being positioned at various points throughout the land. Our client does not need to prove that you read and understood the terms of those signs and will rely on the fact that the signs were situated on the land and that a reasonable person would have seen them. You should always be vigilant when entering any land that you are not familiar with or that you know is privately owned and there are parking terms in place.
A Notice was issued to you. You were afforded the opportunity to; appeal the parking charge, transfer liability to the driver (if it was not you) or make payment. We note that you submitted an appeal directly to the client, which was duly considered. Following a review of the information provided, your appeal was rejected, and our client maintained that the Parking Charge had been issued correctly in accordance with the terms and conditions applicable at the site.
Following the rejection of your appeal, you were provided with the opportunity to refer the matter to POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals) for an independent review if you disagreed with our client's decision. POPLA is an impartial appeals service designed to consider disputes between motorists and parking operators. We further note they also rejected your appeal.
As both stages of the appeals process have now been completed, the appeals procedure is considered exhausted.
You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of £170.00. Failure to make payment may result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.
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