I know it can be difficult!
I don't know about TFL, but are we talking a combined PCN/NTO in which case does the rejection of representation have to be through the post.
I don't know about TFL, but are we talking a combined PCN/NTO in which case does the rejection of representation have to be through the post.
Yes, you should have received a letter in the post. But this is irrelevant now, because you have submitted your TE9 and the process will now be reverted to the stage of submission of reps. TfL must then refer the matter to the adjudicator. Missing letters now seem to be routine nowadays in this Great Britain of the 21st century.
Best to download the form, complete it and send it off. Mail is too uncertain these days. PCN is under Traffic Management Act, so you need the Witness Statement form.
Hi Incandescent, sorry to be a pain... I downloaded form already, but on the Witness statement section, do I just outline what they've written or do I write the reason on a different plain A4 sheet and add with the form? i/e:
•You paid the penalty charge notice in full. You must provide details of the date payment was made,
the method of payment i.e. cash, cheque etc and who the payment was made to. Please note you
may be asked to provide proof of payment upon request.
• You did not receive the notice to owner/penalty charge notice.
• You made representations about the penalty charge notice to the Local Authority within 28 days of
service of the notice to owner but did not receive a reply (rejection notice).
• You appealed against the Local Authority’s decision to reject your representation within 28 days, but
you had no response to your appeal.
..And I assume it's the third paragraph i'm highligting...correct?
Thanks again mate! Appreciate all the help!
NOOO!
You shouldn't outline anything, just tick the appropriate box - which was the
second oneYou confused yourself and a member here by your flawed terminology >
"appealed"and why didn't you e-mail the form instead of wasting time and money on 'signed for'?
Best to download the form, complete it and send it off. Mail is too uncertain these days. PCN is under Traffic Management Act, so you need the Witness Statement form.
Hi Incandescent, sorry to be a pain... I downloaded form already, but on the Witness statement section, do I just outline what they've written or do I write the reason on a different plain A4 sheet and add with the form? i/e:
•You paid the penalty charge notice in full. You must provide details of the date payment was made,
the method of payment i.e. cash, cheque etc and who the payment was made to. Please note you
may be asked to provide proof of payment upon request.
• You did not receive the notice to owner/penalty charge notice.
• You made representations about the penalty charge notice to the Local Authority within 28 days of
service of the notice to owner but did not receive a reply (rejection notice).
• You appealed against the Local Authority’s decision to reject your representation within 28 days, but
you had no response to your appeal.
..And I assume it's the third paragraph i'm highligting...correct?
Thanks again mate! Appreciate all the help!
NOOO!
You shouldn't outline anything, just tick the appropriate box - which was the second one
You confused yourself and a member here by your flawed terminology > "appealed"
and why didn't you e-mail the form instead of wasting time and money on 'signed for'?
Hi Neil, I did tick the second box, and highlighted the section appropriate on the otherside...(my bad).
I didn't email them because I didn't want them to say they never received it, as they seem to have a lot of email errors! Anyway they've definitely received it by signing for it of which I have proof of receivership.
I've just checked the PCN website and it says this today:
16 April 2026 On Hold: SUS40 - Statutory Declaration Receipt
N/AI'm assuming it'll now be reviewed.
Received this today:
I'm assuming that it's reverted to original charge before increase.
Thanks
Received this today:
https://imgpile.com/p/EuYDGTN
I'm assuming that it's reverted to original charge before increase.
Thanks
Yes, the Charge Certificate addition (50%) has been removed because it is now cancelled. However the PCN remains extant. I think you can also pay at the discounted rate too.
Received this today:
https://imgpile.com/p/EuYDGTN
I'm assuming that it's reverted to original charge before increase.
Thanks
Yes, the Charge Certificate addition (50%) has been removed because it is now cancelled. However the PCN remains extant. I think you can also pay at the discounted rate too.
Afternoon Incandescent and one and all!
Checked the website today and still says £250, but letter said they'll, (the original PCN senders), would get in contact... but alas nothing as of yet. I hope they don't try to send just an imaginary email again from their imaginary servers. Talk about longing things out with these people!
What happens now is defined in law, TfL cannot just make it up. If you had submitted representations, and failed to receive a reply (rejection), then TfL must pass the matter to the adjudicators at London Tribunals for a decision.
Hi all, just an update on this case.
As Incandescent said, the case is now being represented to the adjudicators at London Tribunals for a decision. I have to make/prepare a defence and send by the 5th of August 2026. As per normal, my defence will be the same as in the original with the caveat of noticing that it seems there is a string of instances on the internet whereby no email or letter have been received by a string of individuals in similar circumstances and this seems to be a malicious and callous intentions of TFL in a bid to bully individuals into paying them the doubled/tripled fines!!
Rather than accept that their is a fault with their systems, basically it seems TFL cannot handle the shame of defeat in case it stands as a precedent for upcoming cases.
I still believe that they do this on purpose with a bid to gain more money in fines. I'm sure most people will believe they missed the email or letter and just go ahead and pay the inflated addition to the fine.
Include in your reps that a CHarge Certificate has been served despite an adjudication being in progress.If you get the right adjudicator, they'll cancel the PCN on gross abuse of the process, namely an illegal request for money.
@Incandescent, when was this?
The OP introduced us at the CC stage and the Status History shows TfL acted within the prescribed timeframe.
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February 2026 Charge Certificate Batched
N/A
09 January 2026 Representation submitted Under review
N/A
09 January 2026 Rejected Representation - Discount Period Reset
TfL has rejected a representation received for this PCN. The discount period has been reset for a specific duration.
God knows !
I just did a quick repsonse to the question.
OP,
I have to make/prepare a defence and send by the 5th of August 2026Says who?
As per normal, my defence will be the same as in the original with the caveat of noticing that it seems there is a string of instances on the internet whereby no email or letter have been received by a string of individuals in similar circumstances and this seems to be a malicious and callous intentions of TFL in a bid to bully individuals into paying them the doubled/tripled fines!!IMO, is a waste of your time and the adjudicator's in having to read it. Hearsay and unsubstantiated tittle-tattle etc. are not the stuff of successful appeals.
Get back to basics pl.
Do you have TfL's evidence pack, incl Case Summary?
Let's see what they allege and how they intend to prove this to the adjudicator.
Hi Incandescent, Tincombe,
I have only just seen your posts.
I have prepared my wriiten statement as evidence already and hope to post via registered delivery through Royal Mail in the Morning of the 3rd of Aug to arrive by next day.
OP,
I have to make/prepare a defence and send by the 5th of August 2026
Says who?
Sorry, "Have" may have been too strong a word. They write,
"If you have already not done so, please sure that any evidence that you rely upon reaches us by"I have basically outlined the situation of the alleged contravention and have told them that I sent the original appeal through registered delivery, and TFL sent the decision via email and letter, none of which was received, if indeed sent at all. TFL has not provided any proof of this email being sent or for that matter a letter to the same effect.
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