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Bus Lane, under one minute past 16:00.
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My son has received a PCN.

Having checked the video, he was in and out of the bus lane at around 16:00.50s.

I have checked his clock on his car. It's an older vehicle that does not auto update the clock with GPS or anything similar. His time is 2 minutes out.

Is this a defendable position?

Thanks
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. . .
Is this a defendable position?

Thanks


Should be...
As usual, for meaningful advice you will need to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up here
all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave all else in),
the video,
any council photos,
and
a GSV link to the location.
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OP, pl provide a GSV link to the applicable traffic sign advising of the restricted hours.

Also, pl provide a GSV link to 'Balgores Rd' RM2!
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OP, pl provide a GSV link to the applicable traffic sign advising of the restricted hours.

Also, pl provide a GSV link to 'Balgores Rd' RM2!


This, from the GSV link provided by the OP, appears to be the sign
Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.
Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps. · maps.app.goo.gl


Sorry, HCA, but I fail to see the Balgores Road connection??
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The link helps :)

Assuming his car is the one with the hazard lights on leaving the 'bus lane at 18:00:54 I'd say you have an excellent case for a de minimis appeal. Post a draft here for comment before sending.. There have been past adjudications which have said the car clock cannot vbe expected to be set ny the atomic clock.

Is the car and V5C in your son's name?
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Assuming his car is the one with the hazard lights on leaving the 'bus lane at 18:00:54 I'd say you have an excellent case for a de minimis appeal. Post a draft here for comment before sending.. There have been past adjudications which have said the car clock cannot vbe expected to be set ny the atomic clock.

That was my initial thoughts (de minimis and clock accuracy)

Is the car and V5C in your son's name?

Yes
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First draft; thoughts gang?

I am writing to formally appeal the PCN issued.

According to the evidence, I left a bus lane at 16:00:54, while the bus lane was active at 16:00. Given the very narrow time difference of just seconds, I believe this case falls within the de minimis threshold. It is unreasonable to expect my vehicle's clock, which is not synchronised with an atomic clock, to be perfectly precise.

Considering this minor discrepancy, I kindly request that the charge be reviewed and dismissed on the basis that this is a negligible timing difference that cannot reasonably be subject to enforcement.

Thank you for your understanding and consideration. I look forward to your response.

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Unless my eyes deceived me, a PCN with location Balgores Rd RM2 was posted previously. (Balgores Rd is hardly a combination it would be possible to pick at random!)

If not, Specsavers beckons.
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