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sooty12113

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Swiss Speeding Ticket
« on: September 26, 2024, 07:33:08 pm »
A long shot I've had a speeding ticket come through the post for an alleged offence whilst on holiday in Zurich, anyone one know if the Swiss authorities will take steps to enforce
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2024, 01:48:56 pm »
Quote from: sooty12113 on September 26, 2024, 07:33:08 pm
A long shot I've had a speeding ticket come through the post for an alleged offence whilst on holiday in Zurich, anyone one know if the Swiss authorities will take steps to enforce
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It cannot be enforced in the UK.  It will be recorded and it's very likely the vehicle will be stopped if it returns to Switzerland.

Switzerland is not in the EU but has just concluded an agreement with Germany regarding motoring offences.
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2024, 06:15:34 pm »
Thanks for the response, it was in a hire car.

 I've seen the report re Germany which as they share a border is understandable, I'm trying to judge if I'm safe ignoring it
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2024, 08:57:30 pm »
Yes, only if you're not intending to go back to Switzerland. Remember border controls come into force next month which I've heard can include listing motoring offences being classed as "crimes". Also, there was a thread on here or the old forum not so long ago about how much the Swiss penalties increase for non-payment. But they can't be enforced here.
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2024, 11:55:05 am »
thanks
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2024, 12:24:38 pm »
Quote from: roythebus on September 27, 2024, 08:57:30 pm
Yes, only if you're not intending to go back to Switzerland. Remember border controls come into force next month which I've heard can include listing motoring offences being classed as "crimes". Also, there was a thread on here or the old forum not so long ago about how much the Swiss penalties increase for non-payment. But they can't be enforced here.
Do you mean the new EU controls?

Neither UK nor Switzerland are EU members.
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2024, 02:10:51 pm »
Yes, I'm aware of that, but it's not unknown for the Swiss to control their borders, frequently!

I don't know what arrangements the Swiss may have with the EU for cross-border exchanges of driver details for motoring offences.
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2024, 02:58:17 pm »
Quote from: roythebus on September 29, 2024, 02:10:51 pm
Yes, I'm aware of that, but it's not unknown for the Swiss to control their borders, frequently!

I don't know what arrangements the Swiss may have with the EU for cross-border exchanges of driver details for motoring offences.

As stated above, so far, only Germany has across border agreement with Switzerland for motoring offences.

Spain has a cross border agreement with the UK.**

Presumably your reference to border controls is in relation to ETIAS and EES about to the right of entry to and exit from the EU.

Checks relating to motoring offences are not included but could be possible in the event of a subsequent traffic stop within a country. France and Germany keep ghost licence details of offending vehicles and there are reports of cars being stopped in Hungary for offences committed on previous visits.

Edit:  ** Spain can obtain keeper details but not enforce in the UK.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2024, 03:00:21 pm by baroudeur »
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2024, 09:34:10 am »
Thanks, that's worth knowing. Swiss and German have probably got that arrangement as there's places in Germany that you can only access by going through Switzerland or doing a lengthy detour, much like bits of Austria!
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2024, 10:58:22 pm »
The Swiss authorities have my details hence the ticket, these were passed on by the car hire company that charged me a £35 admin fee for the privilege, the fine is €120, the ticket says they will pass on to their crime unit if not paid within 30 days, but I'm assuming and hoping they won't take any enforcement action, although I expect a letter seeking to let me believe they will
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Re: Swiss Speeding Ticket
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2024, 01:37:11 pm »
Quote from: sooty12113 on October 01, 2024, 10:58:22 pm
The Swiss authorities have my details hence the ticket, these were passed on by the car hire company that charged me a £35 admin fee for the privilege, the fine is €120, the ticket says they will pass on to their crime unit if not paid within 30 days, but I'm assuming and hoping they won't take any enforcement action, although I expect a letter seeking to let me believe they will

That sums it up well. The €120 penalty indicates 6 to 10 km/h over an urban limit so relatively minor by Swiss standards. Hire cars and speeding do not mix well in Switzerland.

Of course, if you were speeding you could pay up before the next request for a much larger amount!
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