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Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Hippocrates,

I’m not defending our council but I can’t ignore some irony here which is laughable to be honest.

It is clear and can easily be brought to the attention of formal parties that a post published on your platform contains the full name of an employee of the council.

Alongside damaging accusations without results of a full investigation conducted by the party in question. With you also including suggestions that the person should lose their employment.

The main issue is yes a mistake may of been made unintentionally by the council, however you have purposely chosen to post personal information without authorisation on a public forum.

This publication is both harmful and unlawful under UK law for the following reasons:

1. Defamation (Defamation Act 2013): The statements made are false and have the potential to cause serious harm to the named person’s reputation, particularly in relation to the employment. This constitutes defamatory material.

2. Data Protection and UK GDPR (Data Protection Act 2018): The publication of the persons’s full name without consent amounts to unlawful processing of personal data. There is no lawful basis for the disclosure of such data in this context. - irony at its finest that one

3. Harassment (Protection from Harassment Act 1997): Publicly targeting an individual in this manner way could amount to a harassment investigation which is recognised as both a civil wrong and a criminal offence.

In light of these concerns, the following actions are normally formally requested:

• The immediate removal of all posts containing the individuals full name and defamatory statements.

•Written confirmation that such personal data will not be republished in the future.

• Details of any action your platform intends to take against the individual responsible for posting this content.

Failure to act promptly may result in escalation, Due to your protection breaches. As well as you may end up on the end of potential legal proceedings for defamation and harassment.

I have all your details from your YouTube channel and other online sources - so what do you think an actual professional can find out unlike us idiots on this website.

Unlike your self I won’t be posting your details in public a forum.

I understand you may have spotted an error however, I suggest you advise the people effected by the error to request a data leak investigation to the council or company.

Your actions however in this forum aren’t exactly productive and you are yourself running the same risks your accusing the council of.

Not particularly the best behaviour to demonstrate for someone claiming to help with legal matters.

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Re: Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Hippocrates,

I’m not defending our council but I can’t ignore some irony here which is laughable to be honest.

It is clear and can easily be brought to the attention of formal parties that a post published on your platform contains the full name of an employee of the council.

Alongside damaging accusations without results of a full investigation conducted by the party in question. With you also including suggestions that the person should lose their employment.

The main issue is yes a mistake may of been made unintentionally by the council, however you have purposely chosen to post personal information without authorisation on a public forum.

This publication is both harmful and unlawful under UK law for the following reasons:

1. Defamation (Defamation Act 2013): The statements made are false and have the potential to cause serious harm to the named person’s reputation, particularly in relation to the employment. This constitutes defamatory material.

2. Data Protection and UK GDPR (Data Protection Act 2018): The publication of the persons’s full name without consent amounts to unlawful processing of personal data. There is no lawful basis for the disclosure of such data in this context. - irony at its finest that one

3. Harassment (Protection from Harassment Act 1997): Publicly targeting an individual in this manner way could amount to a harassment investigation which is recognised as both a civil wrong and a criminal offence.

In light of these concerns, the following actions are normally formally requested:

• The immediate removal of all posts containing the individuals full name and defamatory statements.

•Written confirmation that such personal data will not be republished in the future.

• Details of any action your platform intends to take against the individual responsible for posting this content.

Failure to act promptly may result in escalation, Due to your protection breaches. As well as you may end up on the end of potential legal proceedings for defamation and harassment.

I have all your details from your YouTube channel and other online sources - so what do you think an actual professional can find out unlike us idiots on this website.

Unlike your self I won’t be posting your details in public a forum.

I understand you may have spotted an error however, I suggest you advise the people effected by the error to request a data leak investigation to the council or company.

Your actions however in this forum aren’t exactly productive and you are yourself running the same risks your accusing the council of.

Not particularly the best behaviour to demonstrate for someone claiming to help with legal matters.

@Rogersmith1977

Be a man, and say all this to my face at The Coronation Hall tonight in Surbiton. The officer is a public servant, sends out numerous notices of rejections, has sent in two plans to my knowledge to the Tribunal - wilfully - which do not tally with the actual layout of the YBJ at the time. I am fully aware of the laws you cite so you do not need to teach me how to suck eggs with respect. I speak the truth and this officer is part of the  long cog which is responsible for unjust enrichment. She should resign, her superiors should resign and the monies accrued at the said location paid back.

If anyone wants to initiate litigation against me, molon lave.

I respectfully suggest that YOU identify yourself if you wish to conduct yourself in this manner, no matter how awkwardly expressed.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

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Re: Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Take it offline 🙄
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

Re: Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Hang on a minute. I understand there is no rule in this forum which prohibits me to publish  names of officers. @cp8759 may confirm.

One adjudicator is exasperated with this council's continuous enforcement at the said location. Even the last three decisions in August this year confirm their continued extrapolation of the urine and complete disregard for the Tribunal - as is the want of others. 2250256969;2250264719; 2250333866.


ETA Register of Appeals

Register kept under Regulation 20 of the Road Traffic (Parking Adjudicators) (London) Regulations 1993, as amended and Regulation 17 of the Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.

Case Details

Case reference 2250333866

Appellant Rossana Estefanous

Authority Royal Borough of Kingston Upon Thames

VRM A12GHA

PCN Details

PCN QT10613444

Contravention date 24 Apr 2025

Contravention time 11:56:00

Contravention location Kingston Road

Penalty amount GBP 160.00

Contravention Entering and stopping in a box junction

Referral date -

Decision Date 14 Aug 2025

Adjudicator Edward Houghton

Appeal decision Appeal allowed

Direction

cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons

I heard this appeal by video link

The CCTV footage shows the Appellant’s vehicle entering the mouth of the junction and then stopping in anticipation of a vehicle pulling out in front of her a short distance to her right.

There was ample space ahead of her vehicle, clear space on the exit side of the box, and she had right of way. The Appellant did not have to stop at all, nor was the vehicle for which she chose to stop a vehicle which was stationary

Not for the first time, this Council appears not to understand the law. It seems to think that once a vehicle is stationary in a box junction a contravention automatically occurs. This is not so, and the Council is referred to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 Schedule Part 7 para 11:-

“11(1) Subject to sub-paragraphs (2), (3) and (4), the yellow criss-cross marking provided for at item 25 of the sign table in Part 6 conveys the prohibition that a person must not cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junctiondue to the presence of stationary vehicles.” (emphasis added).

The vehicle in this case was clearly not in contravention and the PCN should never have been issued.

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Registers of Appeals

Register kept under Regulation 20 of the Road Traffic (Parking Adjudicators) (London) Regulations 1993, as amended and Regulation 17 of the Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.

Case Details

Case reference 2250264719

Appellant Suresh Ragavan

Authority Royal Borough of Kingston Upon Thames

VRM LL74UXG

PCN Details

PCN QT10607452

Contravention date 22 Apr 2025

Contravention time 16:28:00

Contravention location Kingston Road

Penalty amount GBP 160.00

Contravention Entering and stopping in a box junction

Referral date -

Decision Date 20 Aug 2025

Adjudicator Darminder Lehal

Appeal decision Appeal allowed

Direction

cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons

1. This is a personal appeal against a penalty charge notice issued by the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames .

2. The Appellant states he stopped to let the vehicle join from the left hand side of the adjoining road. The Appellant asserts he did not stop due to the presence of a stationary vehicle. The appellant also raised the point that the box junction is marked beyond as required under the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 and are therefore unenforceable.

3. The Enforcement Authority submit that the Appellant’s vehicle was observed entering and stopping in the yellow box junction on the date in question. The Authority have provided CCTV of the alleged contravention and photographs. They assert that the Appellant’s vehicle enters the box junction when the exit lane was not clear. The Authority say it is the motorists responsibility to assess the road situation ahead and only enter the box junction if they can be sure of crossing it without stopping.

4. There are 3 elements to this this contravention, firstly that the driver causes the vehicle to enter the junction. Secondly that it is stopped in the box junction. Thirdly that the vehicle has to stop due to the presence of stationary vehicles. I do not find that the third element has been satisfied.

5. This box junction is not only marked at the junction between these two roads but also in advance and beyond that junction. It is not therefore marked in compliance with The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 this penalty charge thus being unenforceable.

6. Accordingly, the appeal is allowed.

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ETA Register of Appeals

Register kept under Regulation 20 of the Road Traffic (Parking Adjudicators) (London) Regulations 1993, as amended and Regulation 17 of the Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022.

Case Details

Case reference 2250256969

Appellant Mark Porter

Authority Royal Borough of Kingston Upon Thames

VRM SP18 YUR

PCN Details

PCN QT10527615

Contravention date 09 Apr 2025

Contravention time 15:26:00

Contravention location Kingston Road

Penalty amount GBP 160.00

Contravention Entering and stopping in a box junction

Referral date -

Decision Date 27 Aug 2025

Adjudicator Henry Michael Greenslade

Appeal decision Appeal allowed

Direction

cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons

At this scheduled personal hearing the Appellant appeared in person via MS Teams.

The Enforcement Authority did not attend and was not represented, either in vision, by telephone, or in person.

Under Paragraph 11(1) in Part 7 of Schedule 9 to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 a box junction marking conveys the prohibition that a person must not cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box marking due to the presence of a stationary vehicle.

The Penalty Charge Notice was issued under Section 4(1) of the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 on the basis of information provided by a camera or other device. There appears to be no dispute that the vehicle was at this location, as shown in the closed-circuit television (cctv) images produced by the Enforcement Authority.

The images clearly show that the vehicle did enter this box junction marking when the vehicle ahead was still in it and then had to stop within the box due to the presence of a stationary vehicle.

The Appellant’s case is that the box marking is non-compliant, and the Appellant cites the finding of a previous Adjudicator in this regard.

Adjudicators are not bound by findings of each other but will obviously give them close consideration.

A box junction is the yellow criss-cross marking prescribed by Diagram 1043 at item 25 in Part 6 of Schedule 9 to the 2016 Regulations. Although less prescriptive than the previous Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002, as there are no kerb requirements, the cctv images produced show that in this case the marking appears to extend well beyond the junction.

Considering carefully all the evidence before me I am not satisfied that the box marking is compliant with the current Regulations.

Accordingly, this appeal must be allowed.


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These are highly experienced adjudicators and I have appeared before all of them.  Indeed, the adjudicator in the case pertaining to this thread was concerned about the said plan. RBK should own up  and say how many cases at the Tribunal has this plan been adduced as evidence because, in my view, this amounts to misfeasance and a deliberate attempt to mislead the Adjudicator. This is not a mistake. I have studied the context of its purpose and the explanation for its inclusion.

Interview at 2.30 p.m.  I shall be discrete.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

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Re: Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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@Rogersmith1977 I'll be in Covid Corner back of the pub on the left around 18.00 hrs tonight wearing the T shirt. Bring a tape recorder.

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917back of the pub
« Last Edit: September 04, 2025, 12:25:21 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r
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Re: Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Now now,

I normally don’t lower myself to be found in the coronation hall to be honest

I’ll be in the duke sinking a few tonight, next to the fire place if you fancy a wondering up to a proper pub.

By the way I thought the clue was in my title of my name - id of thought someone with your perception skills and legal expertise would have spotted that to be honest.

On a serious note though if people just looked out there car windows and didn’t stop in the yellow box then we wouldn't be in this situation

Just saying

Re: Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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@Rogersmith1977
if you wish to air your point further why not start a thread in "the flame pit" on your quest to defend local authorities who act un lawfully. ?
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This publication is both harmful and unlawful under UK law for the following reasons:

1. Defamation (Defamation Act 2013): The statements made are false and have the potential to cause serious harm to the named person’s reputation, particularly in relation to the employment. This constitutes defamatory material.
Hippocrates has access to the evidence pack and has identified a public sector employee as having caused a GDPR breach. Quite aside from the fact that article 10 of the ECHR provides private citizens with extremely broad rights to criticise public officials, and public officials engages in contentious litigation that takes place in public can hardly have an expectation of privacy, what evidence do you have that what Hippocrates has said is false? Do you claim you have evidence to show that Macey Briggs did not cause a GDPR breach? If what Hippocrates says is true, he'd have a complete defence of truth to any defamation statement.

2. Data Protection and UK GDPR (Data Protection Act 2018): The publication of the persons’s full name without consent amounts to unlawful processing of personal data. There is no lawful basis for the disclosure of such data in this context. - irony at its finest that one
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, by the logic anyone naming anyone on any social media platform is breaking the law. However private individuals posting in a private capacity on this website are not, contrary to what you think, bound by GDPR. Therefore whether processing would be lawful under GDPR is irrelevant. However even if GDPR were engaged, both GDPR and the ECHR recognise the right to process personal data for journalistic purposes and that includes the right of citizen journalists publishing wrongdoing by public officials.

3. Harassment (Protection from Harassment Act 1997): Publicly targeting an individual in this manner way could amount to a harassment investigation which is recognised as both a civil wrong and a criminal offence.
Given that harassment requires a course of conduct and we are talking about a one-off incident, you're obviously wrong.

In light of these concerns, the following actions are normally formally requested:
Request by whom? And with the best will in the world, what the fiddlesticks has this got to do with you? It's literally none of your business so you have no standing to make any such demands, unless you tell us that you are Macey Briggs?

Failure to act promptly may result in escalation, Due to your protection breaches. As well as you may end up on the end of potential legal proceedings for defamation and harassment.
Legal proceedings by whom?

I have all your details from your YouTube channel and other online sources - so what do you think an actual professional can find out unlike us idiots on this website.
The only correct statement in your post is highlighted in bold above, I completely agree that you're being an idiot.

Unlike your self I won’t be posting your details in public a forum.

I understand you may have spotted an error however, I suggest you advise the people effected by the error to request a data leak investigation to the council or company.
I thought there was no error because what Hippocrates said was false and defamatory?

Your actions however in this forum aren’t exactly productive
Well if you work for a council or are mates with someone who is, then you would say that, wouldn't you?

and you are yourself running the same risks your accusing the council of.
I refer you to the statement I've highlighted in bold above, which is correct.

Not particularly the best behaviour to demonstrate for someone claiming to help with legal matters.
Given your apparent utter and complete misunderstanding of how any of this works, I'm not sure you're best placed to comment on legal matters.
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Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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I am going to do another one very soon and mention all of the superior officers right up to the councillor supposedly in charge of this outfit.  Serendipity.  ;D If they showed any magnanimity and any capacity to say sorry, this would not be necessary.  They will all rally around said person - to protect themselves and cover up their own embarrassment.  When, some years ago, they used the signature of a Barnet officer, Robin Moorwood, they batted that one away with: "This is a generic signature, all of our officers are trained."

For years they even denied that bus lane cameras needed certificates. And one David Fellows was a senior legal officer at the time, now moved to Merton as a solicitor. They don't get sacked - just moved.

I no longer play my violin in the Market Square unless I wear a bulletproof vest, just in case The Jackal is lurking on top of the Town Hall.  :D

And I will obtain the APCOA contract.

@cp8759 Well said, Maestro.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2025, 09:31:19 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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@Rogersmith1977  Contravention or not? We filmed this recently and clearly the driver did not  have his/her windows open. The ignoramus bus driver shouted at the driver too. May be the horn was engaged because there was a fly on his screen?

Your quote:

On a serious note though if people just looked out there car windows and didn’t stop in the yellow box then we wouldn't be in this situation
 

Which situation? They have reduced the size because of experts on this forum and sensible adjudication. You mention irony. The real irony is that the layout now looks more like the dodgy plan adduced. ::)

Quote:

I’m not defending our council but I can’t ignore some irony here which is laughable to be honest.


You're right there. The council are laughing at the 99% of drivers who are taken in by the bribe and scare tactic of paying the reduced rate. I will do my best that they pay them all back. If successful, I make no apology for taking money away from your council. In fact, I would go so far as to say that you, as a rate payer, are directly funding this incompetence. Some of my very best friends live in Kingston and they are equally disgusted with RBK's parking services. And so it is arguable that you are guilty by association in terms of unjustly enriching this council now that you know the truth about said YBJ. You remind me of the idiot who was most aggressive to me and two others some years ago when we stopped drivers going down the infamous Surbiton Crescent fiasco/trap. As I said, molon lave. You are attacking a guy who made legal history in 1998: I achieved residence of my children. You remind me of this famous maxim:  “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.” Jolly Hockey Sticks, mon vieux.


« Last Edit: September 05, 2025, 11:40:35 pm by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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From the other thread:

https://t.co/Xx9WebQYix



I now name the people I have given 7 days to apologise from the top down:

Councillor Nicola Nardelli; Matthew Hill; Gareth Campbell; Macy Briggs.

After all, this is how they treat motorists. Now the boot is on the other foot.  I expect they will all blame APCOA. Let's pass the buck.
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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@cp8759 Said provocateur is a combination of an idiot and a troll. Maxim: When it hits the fan, find a big shower.

@Rogersmith1977

Video to follow tomorrow.

Excellent. 9 guests viewing.

Sarah Ireland should resign and/or apologise too.  How much does she earn? She is the conductor of this motley crew.  Andreas Kirsch is the leader. I have written to him on several occasions. He hasn't even had the courtesy to reply. At least King Kev of the former Tory bunch did so. Ed Davey's wife is part of all this too.

Come on RBK: take me to court as per @Rogersmith1977 suggests.

The previous manager A H Roelefeld did understand statutory dates re the Bus Lane PCNs. She was Gareth Campbell's mentor, apparently, for whom he had the greatest regard. And he used to describe himself as the nemesis of "persistent offenders". Pot calls kettle black. Linkedin posts now removed.






« Last Edit: September 07, 2025, 08:17:43 am by Hippocrates »
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How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Roger the Dodger

I am somewhat dumbfounded by you starting this post

According to your stance on public servants having any validity, I am surprised your Civil Rights Lawyer PM is not himself pursuing endless cases against all the media and endless public posts for Defamation, data protection and harassment as he is in total denial to all the claims against him.
1. Defamation (Defamation Act 2013): The statements made are false and have the potential to cause serious harm to the named person’s reputation, particularly in relation to the employment. This constitutes defamatory material.

2. Data Protection and UK GDPR (Data Protection Act 2018): The publication of the persons’s full name without consent amounts to unlawful processing of personal data. There is no lawful basis for the disclosure of such data in this context. - irony at its finest that one

3. Harassment (Protection from Harassment Act 1997): Publicly targeting an individual in this manner way could amount to a harassment investigation which is recognised as both a civil wrong and a criminal offence.

Pity you don't put your energy to shake up your PCN Micky Mouse cowboy council employees and get them to act in a honest and professional manner as this Kingston bus lane is still ongoing years later. Your Council were fully aware of the missing signage due to road works but still issued PCN and have never had the common decency to make a refund which is obtaining money under misspresentaion which is a criminal offence and action should have been taken against them.
From: **** <hotmail.com>
Sent: 09 November 2023 19:21
To: parkingservicesteam@kingston.gov.uk <parkingservicesteam@kingston.gov.uk>;  foi@kingston.gov.uk <foi@kingston.gov.uk>
Cc:
Subject: Fw: Failure to respond on my 16 Sept 2023 Complaint and FOI request where the later has been acknowledged but still outstanding

REMINDER
Dear Sarah Ireland

Your Council is not fit for purpose  and a total disgrace with  your  inaction  to my 16 Sept 2023  e mail below  so now  add this Council zero  response to the list of complaints  where you need to be taken to task. I have included all Councillor's so they are fully aware of  the Councils inability to perform so copy them in with your reply.

1). FOI as outlined in in my 16 Sept 2023 e mail  still not forthcoming  where it was stated on 20 Oct 2023 it would be available by 27 October 2023
2). Provide answers to Kingston Councils staff incompetence, harassment and deception by extorting public money under false presences . The full outcome with clear  explanation of your  Council's investigation is required and what disciplinary action is being taken by these councils  perpetrators.
3).  Please add to my FOI list how many  non compliant PCN you have issued since 16 September 2023 during this Council inaction period to date and what corrective action you will be taking  with these extorted  illegal proceeds.

Regards 
From: P
Sent: 16 September 2023 11:24
To: cmt@kingston.gov.uk <cmt@kingston.gov.uk>
Subject: PCN reference ***** date of notice 15/06/ 2023 Complaint

Dear Kingston Council



PCN reference ****** date of notice 15/06/ 2023 Complaint SE07XKX



Can a single one of you Councillors, identify the "Authorised " person who on 7 July 2028 signed off in reply to my initial Challenge with a lengthy generic rejection letter clearly demonstrating they had not read the challenge content resulting it unnecessarily being taken to the next Enforcement Notice stage wasting my time and ratepayers' money. I then receive this Enforcement Notice dated 14 August 2028 and replied on the same day with a single line simple challenge telling them to actually read my initial representation which included the attached photograph clearly showing there was NO WARNING or RESTRICTION on turning left from Union St into Eden St. 



Accordingly, please investigate this matter and submit clear substantiation of what further evidence this same author established that had not already been provided to now waive the PCN as stated on the Council 11 September 2023 response. I, along with many others are intrigued as to what changed that authors mind and if there are no valid grounds, this author needs to be taken to task and removed from this post and downgraded to something requiring limited skills for the benefit of all ratepayers funding your Council.



Moreover,  I do not believe this to be an isolated case which demonstrates that your staff are unskilled, not fit for purpose sending out generic rejections not reading the challenge or incapable of comprehending that your Eden St Bus lane PCN is non-compliant .  Had that authorised member of staff bothered to read my initial representation months back which basically informed your Council they were issuing non-valid PCN.



On the other side of the coin, if Kingston Council is knowingly issuing PCN that are non-compliant this is considered an abuse of power, fraud and blatant entrapment purely for financial gain by extorting money from the public knowing the vast majority simply pay the reduced PCN amount to move on. Those that Challenge the PCN and get that Councils Generic response is considered further harassment and this practice must cease.



I trust I will receive a proactive response to these issues raised to avoid escalating this to a higher authority.



Accordingly, under the Freedom of Information act, please advise re the attached Google Earth map clearly showing there is NO sign on Union St informing drivers they are not permitted to turn left and enter Eden Street bus lane.

a).. The date the Council

i). Became aware there was no sign in place not to turn left.

ii). Were made aware themselves or by third parties there was no sign not to turn left

iii). Installed the conforming sign not to turn left as it was a bus lane.



Please Quantify for each of the 3 periods in a). above the following. 

b). how many members of public challenged the Eden st Bus lane PCN during this period and

Quantity of PCN  issued
Quantity that were challenged
Quantity rejected
Quantity that were sent enforcement Notices
Quantity that were further challenged and subsequently waived like mine
Quantity that were rejected and went to Tribunal.
Quantity won at Tribunal


Once these figures are established, please clearly explain the means of reimbursement for all those who paid any non-compliant PCNs.



On a more serious issue, as I suspect from my case this is not isolated and Kingston Council intentionally reject all initial challenges to a PCN. Accordingly, under the FOI, please also submit the following.




c). Total quantity of "ALL" PCN's Issued by Kingston Council over the last year to this date.

 

Quantity of PCN  issued
Quantity  that were challenged
Quantity rejected
Quantity that were sent enforcement  Notices
Quantity  that were  further challenged and subsequently waived like mine
Quantity that were  rejected and went to Tribunal.
Quantity won at Tribunal
Regards
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Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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Naming is fine but no doxing please.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

Re: Kingston opon Thames - 31J yellow box - Kingston Road
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@cp8759 All councillors have their e mail addresses openly published on the council's website.  ;) And their phone numbers, too.

I will publish another video shot yesterday - if I can hobble upstairs! :'(
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IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r