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Small to medium and probably SUV as I've driven vans/trucks for much of my later years.

And any particular views about the Motability scheme.

Prefer a full hybrid or similarly economical mid hybrid. Plug ins look interesting but I'm unlikely to be able to install a home charger.

I'm from the age when cars had only about 4 or 5 important parts and we repaired them at home, which I'll no longer have to worry about.

Looking at the choice has driven me nuts but I think I've narrowed it down a bit.
Reading What Car reviews confuses things as it finds the flaws/limitations of every model.
But I know that whatever I get will be a world away from anything I've driven before.

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Top full (all size) and mild hybrids (medium size) from Which?

There are cars with higher scores say 84% in other categories. I doubt you could go wrong with a Honda.





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Thanks for that.
You've now got me looking at the Civic again, which I originally thought had too much of an advance payment.
I'll have to look at the Qashqai too.

I was originally looking at the sexy Tucson but am put off by mediocre economy.
Looked at the Volvo XC40 too but, good as it is, looks and feels like an old man's car.
Others I considered were the Kia Sportage and Hyundai Kona

The one I like, based on near perfect reviews, is the Volkswagen T-Roc. Even that is a problem as the full hybrids don't come out until last quarter this year.

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Had a look at Mazda's offerings?

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Bear in mind that just about any new car that you buy these days has loads of "features" that you probably don't want but can't refuse.

There is the speed limit nagger, that beeps should you exceed the limit (it thinks is in force) by 0.0001mph. Yup, it VERY often gets it wrong, but you gotta think of the children.

Then there is the "drive in a straight line assist" that beeps (usually with a different sound to the speeding beep) and jerks your steering wheel should you dare cross a white line anywhere without indicating.

Hidden somewhere in the dashboard is a camera pointing at your face. It checks whether you are intensely staring at the speedometer, and if it feels as though you may be distracted, it suggests that you might like a cup of coffee.

These days you don't buy a car - the car buys (owns) you ;)

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Some of the choice may depend upon how long you plan to keep the car, and the length of warranty.

Since my partner will soon be in need of a replacement, most likely almost new, I had a word with my friendly MOT man.
Essentially; what newish cars do you fail most often, i.e. what's worth avoiding, and what's most reliable to buy?

Pro; Kia and Japanese, anti; German and British, mainly due to electronic/electrical problems.

Also suggested avoid Suzuki, not because they make bad cars, but due to unavailability of spares if you need any; he pointed to one car and said that's been waiting for a part for 12 weeks.

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I'd stick to cars that have Toyota, Suzuki or Honda written on the back, with Kia/Hyundai as a reserve.

They all have lengthy warranties, the first 3 are rolling 12 month ones activated by having it serviced, Kia/Hyundai are standard 7 years, de-activated by not having it serviced, so pretty much the same thing!

Toyota have an excellent hybrid drive train (thousands of taxis licenced in Wolverhampton can't be wrong) I'd look at the Yaris Cross.

Like all cars nowadays, if they need any parts above service items you have to wait months, and like all dealership chains if anything does go wrong you will wait 6-8 weeks for an appointment to even get them to look at it, but Toyota, Honda & Suzuki very rarely break.


They are all festooned with driver/safety aids that most people try to turn off, Renault offer a single button to do this, I'd expect Nissan to do the same. I just drive with them on and take no notice of all the bings, bongs and beeps, the steering shaker is easy enough to drive through, although the first time it happened I did think I had a wheel coming off (again...)


The only useful feature IMHO is the adaptive cruise control that uses lidar to follow the car in front at a "safe" distance (I think it is too close for motorways...)  and automatically sets the speed to the limit (you have to confirm it and can override it if you disagree). It takes all the effort out of A road driving, you just let the car in front do all the work in heavy traffic & queues. You still have to stop at islands & junctions yourself though.








 

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A couple of respondents here seem not to have noticed my mention of Motability?

I'm not in the market for buying a new car; I just need to select one from what is available under the scheme.
That means that i don't have to worry about reliability to a great extent.

I think I have a shortlist but just have to get out to a dealer.
Not so easy in this heat and i'll need a taxi wherever i go. Largely housebound but trying to walk a bit with my (new) rollator; which now has a cup holder!! Maybe I'll get a sunroof for it soon?

A good member here has flagged up the Qashqai as well, where the new e-power versions look quite unique so far.
So I'll look to test drive that at least.

Still very taken by the VW T-roc but annoying the full hybrids are not yet avaiable.

Also like the Kia Sportage and, climbing down of my high chair, the Honda Civic and Cupra Leon.

One of my concerns is whether I can lift/close a tailgate, so where it isn't standard I may have to add it as an option.


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A couple of respondents here seem not to have noticed my mention of Motability?

Or they noticed that it was ostensibly included as a separate question.

Whilst many regulars are more than capable of reading far beyond what can reasonably be deduced from the information posted in active case threads, if you have been wasting people's time with a poorly worded question, that is on the author, not the reader. In my opinion.
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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A couple of respondents here seem not to have noticed my mention of Motability?

Or they noticed that it was ostensibly included as a separate question.

Whilst many regulars are more than capable of reading far beyond what can reasonably be deduced from the information posted in active case threads, if you have been wasting people's time with a poorly worded question, that is on the author, not the reader. In my opinion.
Happy to concede that my opening post wasn't ideally worded.
The respondents in question posted some useful info anyway and, now, perhaps understand a little better.

I'm in a very fortunate position; just very confused by how things have improved in recent years.
I don't even know if I can drive; although consultants have not forbidden it when directly asked.

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Neil, are you aware of all of the changes being made to the Motability scheme?  These include VAT on the AP, Mileage reduced to 10k per annum (albeit they are supposed to be going to provide exemptions, possibly details available on 8/7), 25p per mile excess mileage charge, reducing the tyre replacements allowed, removing european cover and the currently suspended drive smart app that seems to have caused some people to have been kicked off the scheme incorrectly.

I personally decided to leave Motability and use my benefits towards the purchase of my own car, off the scheme.  I went for a mild hybrid Suzuki Swift which was available (in April) with up to 5 years interest free credit with zero deposit.  I got £600 off the list price via CarWow and saved the first year £365 VED by using my entitlement. I'm averaging 65 mpg and am very happy with the car, apart from all of the nanny tech.  Suzuki also offer an up to 10 year warranty which is activated via a dealer service which adds a one year extension for every year from the end of year 3 up to year 10. I've worked it out and over the 4 years, allowing for PIP increases annually, I reckon the total additional cost per month I have to find is £100 including an annual service, insurance and tyres.

I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to deal with the Motability changes and would just get my own, which I will keep  after the 4 years is up meaning that my PIP from then on goes into my pocket.  I appreciate that's I'm lucky in that my credit is good meaning that this was an option available to me.

Another daft thing to point out is that getting the car brand new meant that I could have 0% finance.  Buying a pre-registered or 1 year old car meant 8.9% so save on the car price but lose a large chunk of that saving on interest so it didn't make sense.

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I appreciate that's I'm lucky in that my credit is good meaning that this was an option available to me.
Thanks Peter.
I'm aware that there are a lot of good offers out there.
My credit isn't bad, just non-existent, which I understand = bad.
I'm going to find it easier dealing with Motability as I've not been great at personal admin over the years.
I've been able to help people here for many years but looking after my own affairs is not quite my forte.

I've also been aware, for quite a while, of the Motability rule changes but I've now overcome that, as I'll explain in my next post.

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One of the things I've had to contend with is my inherent obsessive nature.
I actually had a serious breakdown back in 1996 and was eventually diagnosed with a ruminative form of OCD; basically I overthink things.
I've got better from the early part of this century; understanding what was wrong and managing it very effectively. But it will stay with me for the rest of my life. It has actually helped me help others on the parking (etc.) forum over the years.
Now I find myself faced with a choice of well over 500 vehicles on the scheme and further choices within each model.
It was obvious that started to affect me quite quickly and I could have had some level of relapse; so I had to be decisive quite quickly.

I read numerous reviews; trying to stick to one source for a realistic comparison; 'What Car'.
I also viewed may Youtube reviews which were a bit more positive.
I can't list all the models but I considered Hyundai, Renault, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Mazda, Volvo, Ford, Skoda and probably others I've now forgotten.
Then focused on those that appealed; Nissan Qashqai e-power, VW T-Roc and a handful of others I now don't recall.

In the end I settled on one I had initially dismissed as being a bit daft; the Cupra Formentor.
It just felt like the reviews kept following me round
On the 29th June I went to a dealer, viewed, test drove and ordered one, a V2 version.
So i got the 20k miles pa and paid no VAT.
Then it just got better; as I have a £40k motor for an advance payment of just £2k.
The new prices came out on Motability on 1st July and the same car would now need an advance payment of £4k + VAT.

So thanks for all the suggestions but I guess I'm sorted now.

It uses the same 1.5 engine as lots of VWs, Skodas and SEATs.
7 speed DSG with some paddles on the steering wheel to make the DSG change its mind.
V2 has a powered tailgate, which I think I will need.
and basically all the features the T-Roc offers.