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Sander333

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Blue badge enquiry.
« Reply #225 on: August 30, 2025, 05:46:10 pm »
My mother is the holder of a blue badge and parked on double yellow lines. No kerb markings the assumption being she has up to three hours parking.
The local Authority uses a camera car and patrols the area. The council web site states that the car fitted with ANPR can be used to issue PCN on double single yellow lines, bus stops etc.

Perhaps they have not explained that they can only issue the notices when vehicles are parked on yellow lines when kerb markings are in force. Anyone have any observations on this matter as she is having a bit of a panic. Definitely no kerb markings but the camera drove past the parked car.

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Re: Blue badge enquiry.
« Reply #226 on: August 31, 2025, 02:15:45 pm »
My mother is the holder of a blue badge and parked on double yellow lines. No kerb markings the assumption being she has up to three hours parking.
The local Authority uses a camera car and patrols the area. The council web site states that the car fitted with ANPR can be used to issue PCN on double single yellow lines, bus stops etc.

Perhaps they have not explained that they can only issue the notices when vehicles are parked on yellow lines when kerb markings are in force. Anyone have any observations on this matter as she is having a bit of a panic. Definitely no kerb markings but the camera drove past the parked car.

Swansea?

I think they use the camera cars mainly for no stopping contraventions. If your mother was legally parked displaying her BB there is nothing to worry about as they can't show otherwise.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/swansea-parked-in-taxi-rank/

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Have I been caught?
« Reply #227 on: September 06, 2025, 06:07:58 pm »
Hi all,  3 weeks and one day ago, I drove past a fixed camera in a 20mph zone, I'm not sure what speed I was doing at the time, I wasn't driving fast, just keeping with the general flow of traffic, but I strongly suspect that it was over 20mph. I remember spotting the camera in my rear view mirror and going "****, I think I might have been doing over 20"

Anyway, I haven't heard anything by post or email, but I'm still worried, my car is leased, so I'm not the RK, and my concern is that a ticket was issued and is now being processed after the lease company identified me as the driver.

How long do you think I should still be concerned for?  Are there any limits on how long the police have to contact me after I've been identified by the lease company? Do lease companies normally inform drivers that they have received a NIP?

Is there a period after which you think I can  relax?

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #228 on: September 09, 2025, 02:48:58 pm »
Only the first notice to the registered keeper is subject to the 14 day rule for the NIP. If the car is leased that will likely be the lease company or a finance company, so you could be 2nd or 3rd in the chain. After that the Police have 6 months in order to prosecute for the alleged offence. Realistically though they would need to send you a request for driver details more than 28 days prior to that to ensure a prosecution could commence.

Have you checked that your details are correct with the lease company? Not always, but often they will notify you of any received NIPs so they can remind you of any associated admin fee they charge for completing it with your details.   

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Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable
« Reply #229 on: September 28, 2025, 06:25:57 am »
Hi all first post,

I know the law is for an NIP to be posted so it’s presumed delivered in 14 + 1 days etc.

My question is more in the experience of users here, what’s the usual or average time for an NIP to arrive if caught by an M1 variable camera?

Thanks
« Last Edit: September 28, 2025, 06:34:37 am by Old Git »

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Re: Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable
« Reply #230 on: September 28, 2025, 07:41:21 am »
Where did you get the "+1"? It's 14 days.

I have no relevant experience, but I'd be surprised if it's more than 3-4 days. There need be little or no human involvement in the process, so no reason for any delay.

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Re: Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable
« Reply #231 on: September 28, 2025, 09:22:47 am »
Date of offence is Day 0 when counting for NIP so it’s 14 days from day following the date of offence.


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Re: Approx how long do NIP’s take to arrive from M1 variable
« Reply #232 on: September 28, 2025, 10:12:42 am »
Date of offence is Day 0 when counting for NIP so it’s 14 days from day following the date of offence.
No, its "within fourteen days of the commission of the offence" [Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988, s 1(1(c))].

Not 14 days from the day following, or indeed the day before.

For an offence on the 1st of the month, the NIP must be served by the 15th.


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Italian speeding fine
« Reply #233 on: October 11, 2025, 04:05:19 pm »
I was caught speeding in a hire car in Italy in May 2023, with an unexpected fine sent through in Feb 2024. I duly paid it (and have proof of payment from my bank). I thought nothing more and then a year later started being chased for non- payment (May 2025). I sent proof of payment( bank statement from HSBC) promptly but got no response. I have just received a letter from a UK claims recovery organisation claiming I owe £600 in fine and cost. As a point of principle, I won’t pay the fine again. If they don’t drop this, escalate costs and we go to court, what is the likely view of a judge, if I can show a statement with my payment to the correct account. I have communicated promptly every time but return communications have been slow/non-existent.

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Are SPECS/VECTOR average speed camera installations separated by direction?
« Reply #234 on: November 03, 2025, 06:01:43 pm »
So there is this single carriageway road that is posted at 50mph and is enforced via Jenoptik VECTOR average speed cameras mounted on streetlamps. There is this exit that is only usable in one of the directions and I happened to miss it, I pulled into the first lay by after the junction (And passing a camera in said direction at 50) and then got a safe opportunity to perform a U turn taking me back the opposite direction in which I passed a different camera which is almost directly opposite the camera I passed in the first direction albeit this one is monitoring the other direction. I then pulled over and waited for a gap to do a second U turn to get back to my exit.
I'm worried if the camera systems are interlinked and may have wrongly calculated my average speed as way higher than it should be.
How "idiot proof" are these kind of installations? Like does the ANPR system controlling the stretch only check for offences between cameras in the same direction or are all cameras linked regardless of direction?
Example stretch. Eastbound features cameras A, B and C at the end, middle and end. Westbound features cameras D, E and F at similar positions to A, B and C. If a motorist going eastbound passes cameras A and B, but then decides to pull a U turn and then pass cameras E and F (All while staying within the speed limit). Will the system flag an offence between cameras B and E?

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Re: Are SPECS/VECTOR average speed camera installations separated by direction?
« Reply #235 on: November 03, 2025, 07:37:18 pm »
Will the system flag an offence between cameras B and E?
No.   (Average speeds are only calculated for A to B and B to C and D to E and E to F)

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #236 on: November 03, 2025, 07:47:49 pm »
Or, A to D, B to F, D to E...

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Re: Italian speeding fine
« Reply #237 on: November 03, 2025, 08:25:35 pm »
I was caught speeding in a hire car in Italy in May 2023, with an unexpected fine sent through in Feb 2024. I duly paid it (and have proof of payment from my bank). I thought nothing more and then a year later started being chased for non- payment (May 2025). I sent proof of payment( bank statement from HSBC) promptly but got no response. I have just received a letter from a UK claims recovery organisation claiming I owe £600 in fine and cost. As a point of principle, I won’t pay the fine again. If they don’t drop this, escalate costs and we go to court, what is the likely view of a judge, if I can show a statement with my payment to the correct account. I have communicated promptly every time but return communications have been slow/non-existent.
There's very little chance you'll hear any more about it. there's no way foreign motoring fines can be enforced here.Don't worry, be happy.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #238 on: November 06, 2025, 09:41:04 pm »
Was driving to LBA tonight and got caught by suprise that a new speed camera has been fitted by Apperly bridge. Its that recent that it has not been on Waze yet, first camera I saw is at the bottom of the hill opposite the pub, another one was a bit further on and a final yellow pole with no cameras attached to it yet. Rumoured to become a SPECS array once completed. Does anyone know if these half-finished stretches are immediately live and recording as fixed cameras once one is errected or do they only become live and recording once the final camera is installed and commissioned?

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #239 on: November 07, 2025, 07:05:57 am »
LBA?