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gumph69

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #120 on: January 05, 2025, 06:11:42 pm »
Thank you all for your replies
FYI, I never received a PCN and 2 months have passed
Fortune has smiled on me
Happy New Year
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Restriction on speed and lane closure on Smart Motorway
« Reply #121 on: January 06, 2025, 02:03:13 pm »
Travelling on the M27 smart motorway, there were lane closures and a 40mph limit due to an vehicle stranded on the highway. I immediately reduced to 40 and the vehicle in question was in the inside lane with a motorway patrol vehicle and the site was coned off. Once I had passed and it was safe to do so (four lanes clear and very little traffic - 10pm) I edged back to the left lane and started to increase speed. However, the gantry still showed the lane closed and the limit in place. I know I contravened the restrictions but as this was about a quarter of a mile past the stranded vehicle and the road was clear, I (probably) wrongly assumed it was OK. Needless to say the gantry had cameras and I was flashed. Not sure what speed I was up to but over 50. I am now waiting for the NIP to drop through the letter box. Not sure if it will do me for speeding and lane violation. The question is, is there any defence of restrictions being in place for no reason?
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #122 on: January 06, 2025, 10:16:50 pm »
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...is there any defence of restrictions being in place for no reason?

No reason so far as you know. Unfortunately the decision was not yours.
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Speeding in smart motorway closed lane
« Reply #123 on: January 08, 2025, 07:24:47 pm »
Question for the legal eagles. I have received a NIP for driving in a closed lane on a smart motorway. Guilty as charged and it was a result of moving back to the inside lane after the closing restriction (stranded vehicle) had been well passed and the road was clear. The question is, the other three lanes were on a 40mph gantry marked restriction and my NIP shows I was doing 51mph when flashed - The NIP only states the Section 36(1) of driving in a closed lane. My non-legal head thinks that if a lane is closed, by default, there can be no speed limit in that lane so provided speed was under the national limit, I can only be charged with the lane closure offence. As I say, I accept the NIP but am I likely to get a second NIP from the same camera for exceeding the 40mph limit imposed on the other three lanes. Hoping for a Motorway Driving Awareness Course rather than points/fine.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #124 on: January 10, 2025, 10:37:40 am »
Has it been over 14 days since the offence? If so, unlikely. If not, possible but unlikely. 
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #125 on: January 10, 2025, 10:45:01 am »
as the OP has now received a NIP is this not now a live case??
they HAVE been caught.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #126 on: January 10, 2025, 10:56:32 am »
The question seems to be around 'will I get a second NIP' rather than needing help with the received NIP.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #127 on: January 10, 2025, 11:26:53 am »
Thinking this one out - I have done in a closed lane (accepted) but I am now thinking a closed lane, by default, cannot have a speed limit (other than the designated limit for that classification of raid). Thus, the only offence can be driving in a closed lane.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #128 on: January 10, 2025, 11:35:04 am »
Quote from: Archer on January 10, 2025, 11:26:53 am
Thinking this one out - I have done in a closed lane (accepted) but I am now thinking a closed lane, by default, cannot have a speed limit (other than the designated limit for that classification of raid). Thus, the only offence can be driving in a closed lane.
The flaw in your argument is that the posted limit applies to thee whole carriageway, not just the lanes above which it is displayed.
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gumph69

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #129 on: January 10, 2025, 06:12:33 pm »
Have I been caught? seems to have all sorts of different issues mixed together. I keep getting notifications but they are not part of my thread
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #130 on: January 10, 2025, 06:19:39 pm »
Sucks to be you, apparently.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #131 on: January 10, 2025, 06:33:36 pm »
I think you can turn off notifications.
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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #132 on: January 11, 2025, 02:55:32 pm »
Am I about to be caught?

An elderly friend of mine has asked me to help him pick up a fridge which he has purchased from the BHF Shop in Nottingham.  The lady there told him that you can load after 4:30pm opposite.

Knowing that you cannot chance anything these days, I've had a look on Google StreetView which is some 6 years out of date.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/quPP46wUs3qCpji6A

So I can see a tiny sign in a ridiculous place with the junction with Beastmarket Hill and Angel Row on double yellow lines.

Is this a legitimate place to stop?  If so, where exactly? And for how long?  Are double yellow lines restricted to 2 minutes loading?

Hoping to get a prompt reply as he needs me there at 4.30pm today.  In the meantime, I'll do some research just in case.

According to 'Road Markings' on Gov Website, double yellows mean "No waiting at any time" but there are faded single yellow marks on the kerb and if I am understanding this correctly and assuming those marks are still there some 6 years after the last Google StreetCar Visit then it is safe to load?

Question is I read somewhere that you have to switch the engine off.  Is this also correct please?

Also, Google Maps appears to want to route me down Market Street but that appears to be Tram only!


At the top of Market Street it says Tram and Cycles only on the road, there is a Tram and Cycles sign (but no ONLY plate below it) but on the left according to GSV, there was a sign saying "Except Buses and for loading at any time 4:30 - 10pm".  So would I technically need to be in a van to be classed as loading?

I've never been in a situation like this in all my years of knowing what I can and can't do since the introduction of trams.  Of course, rules change once you have passed your test 40 years ago.

Thanks in advance.
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Hroogar

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #133 on: January 13, 2025, 04:38:26 pm »
Turned up to do errand for my elderly mate and the guy from the shop told me that I would get ticketed where I pulled up on the same side as the BHF Shop.

Signs say otherwise so just hope my interpretation is right.  Presumably this would require an officer of the Council to actually slap a ticket on whilst I was loading.
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Hroogar

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Re: Have I been caught?
« Reply #134 on: Yesterday at 11:23:25 am »
Quote from: gumph69 on January 10, 2025, 06:12:33 pm
Have I been caught? seems to have all sorts of different issues mixed together. I keep getting notifications but they are not part of my thread

That's because it is one thread.  It's a bit of a hotch potch but if the powers that be want one thread for this then who are we to dictate or complain?  :D
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