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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2024, 06:53:08 pm »
It's not working for me this evening.
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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2024, 07:11:35 pm »
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ tells me that Pepipoo is down for everyone.

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2024, 11:00:37 pm »
It's not working for me this evening.
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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2024, 11:51:43 pm »
Ditto

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2024, 12:31:40 pm »
I tried logging in numerous times yesterday with no luck and same today.  same error message.

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2024, 02:00:19 am »
I have recently posted more frequently on Pepipoo than I have on here, but I don't really understand why it's still stumbling along.  (Except it's stopped stumbling and fallen over again now)

When Pepipoo failed last June, @cp8759, @Southpaw (and was it @JohnUK) did a great job getting this site up in no time whatsoever.  This site is much easier to use, has proper security and is just better all round.  It also seems to be reliable.

The problem with Pepipoo is that it's very clunky and there's no security - that's unacceptable today.  I referred somebody to Pepipoo from MSE a couple of weeks ago and the first thing they did was come back and say "My browser tells me the site is unsecure and unsafe.  Is it really safe to use?"

The other problem - as proven again over the weekend - is that it's unreliable.  If the speeding and parking experts are trying to advise posters according to statutary timescales it's no good if the site suddenly disappears for a couple of weeks with no warning and no access to it.

When Pepipoo went down in June I think it took over two weeks for the owner or an administrator to turn up and get it going again - that's no good.

I can sort of understand why some people might have some kind of sentimental attachment to Pepipoo (well no I can't actually - it's just a website) but I don't understand why a couple of established posters seem to have remained exclusively on Pepipoo and not moved over to here.

As Southpaw said previously, people are free to post on either site, both, or neither.  But I think it's a great pity if some experienced posters have decide to remain solely on Pepipoo and not share their knowledge on here.  Pepipoo could go down again anytime as has happened this weekend.  Long term it's going nowhere.
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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2024, 02:32:14 am »
This downtime might be MJDev actually trying to get the site updated, they did say there were going to be upgrades. You have to remember that the domain was renewed, which costs money, so someone has to be paying this and actioning it. Pepipoo is/was also based on an older forum software that requires manual hosting, this site is based on a forum service, so someone else manages the backend.

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Pepipoo could go down again anytime as has happened this weekend. 

You're right, but so could this site. Realistically this is probably less likely, but I don't know the intricacies with regards to the domain registration and other bits (i.e. how quickly the domain could be pointed elsewhere if the createaforum service disappeared).

Pepipoo is widely known, I wouldn't abandon it just in case you are going to catch people that wouldn't find this site IMO.
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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2024, 08:02:30 am »
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When Pepipoo failed last June, @cp8759, @Southpaw (and was it @JohnUK) did a great job getting this site up in no time whatsoever.   . . .

Thanks for the thought, but I can claim no credit whatsoever, which is certainly due to CP, Southpaw and others.

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2024, 08:23:06 am »
You're right, but so could this site.
The difference is that southpaw82 owns the domain name, and if the platform that is hosting us at the moment went down for good we could get the site up and running again on a different platform in half a day, maybe a day at most.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I am not a lawyer.

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2024, 11:24:51 am »
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This downtime might be MJDev actually trying to get the site updated, they did say there were going to be upgrades.
you could very well be right, but if you were then it would question MJ aka Fredd (possibly, possibly not) their approach to contributors in not posting any warning. I get someone is doing something behind the scenes but it's just ridiculous not to share the plan.
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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2024, 12:20:41 pm »
I'm not even getting the error message this morning (about 1100). Safari just won't do anything, like Bob Marley, it's jammin'.
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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2024, 01:25:48 pm »

The difference is that southpaw82 owns the domain name, and if the platform that is hosting us at the moment went down for good we could get the site up and running again on a different platform in half a day, maybe a day at most.

That's why I said in my post depending on intricacies - I don't know how the domain registration has been done - if it were through CreateAForum then it could get messy, versus just being able to point it elsewhere if you have it registered directly with a registrar.

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2024, 02:22:29 pm »
That's why I said in my post depending on intricacies - I don't know how the domain registration has been done - if it were through CreateAForum then it could get messy, versus just being able to point it elsewhere if you have it registered directly with a registrar.
The domain is registered directly with a registrar.
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I am not a lawyer.

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2024, 02:40:20 pm »
. . .
When Pepipoo failed last June, @cp8759, @Southpaw (and was it @JohnUK) did a great job getting this site up in no time whatsoever.  . . .

Thanks for the thought, but I can claim no credit whatsoever, which is certainly due to CP, Southpaw and others.

Sorry John - I knew others had been involved in the set-up apart from CP and Southpaw, and I thought you were one of them.

And apologies to the other person (or people) whom I should have thanked. 

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Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2024, 06:07:16 pm »
You're right, but so could this site.
The difference is that southpaw82 owns the domain name, and if the platform that is hosting us at the moment went down for good we could get the site up and running again on a different platform in half a day, maybe a day at most.

Which Pepipoo manifestly can't do.

If sites like this one and like Pepipoo are going to provide timely and useful advice to motorists, the sites have to be reliable so that people wanting advice know that the website will be there to let them meet statutory deadlines.

If Pepipoo goes down for a few days (or nearly 4 weeks like I think it did in June) it's simply not fit for purpose.

There's no point expert posters investing time and effort in Pepipoo if it's here today, gone tomorrow.  It's not a question of sentiment.
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