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57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was driving???
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Got letter re 57mph on M1 (southbound J15-J14) under a 50mph variable gantry.
Need to provide name of driver.

My husband and I were collecting our son from university that day, and we took turns driving.
We genuinely can't remember who was driving at that moment - and the supplied photos don't show faces.
What should we do???
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Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was driving???
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What would you do if you wanted to work out who was driving?
What have you done so far to try to work out who was driving?
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We have discussed the drive in detail but just can't work out which one of us it would have been.  We stopped for MacDonalds at a service station about an hour afterwards but we can't remember which one of us was driving there vs afterwards.  Son can't remember either :-/
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If you do not know who was driving and cannot identify them after using reasonable diligence then you can take the matter to court and try and convince the bench you couldn't identify them.

It will be a nice day out.  But if you cannot convince the bench then it will be 6 points along with a corresponding fine and surcharge.  The CPS may ask for over £600 in costs if you progress to contested trial.

It's not easy, but can be done.
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Quote from: Feline_Foxy on September 22, 2025, 04:40:17 pm
We have discussed the drive in detail but just can't work out which one of us it would have been.  We stopped for MacDonalds at a service station about an hour afterwards but we can't remember which one of us was driving there vs afterwards.  Son can't remember either :-/
hmmm
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Re: 57 in a 50 (M1, variable limit gantry) - but WHO was driving???
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Imagine that if you named the driver you would get £1 million. Any idea now?
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Quote from: Southpaw82 on September 22, 2025, 09:51:54 pm
Imagine that if you named the driver you would get £1 million. Any idea now?
Maybe the carrot of costing up to £1000, 6 points and dearer insurance for the next 5 years will help as the £1m may not be on offer.
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Yeah, so apparently a memorable journey and you can remember stopping for a McDonalds an hour from the location but you would expect a court to consider that 3 adults cannot remember who was driving when you left your sons university digs?

If you are testing out your story it is extremely weak and I would expect one of you to come away with 6 points and an endorsement code that will considerably increase insurance premiums for 5 years.
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There have been one or two notable successes. Here's one:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/nov/28/northerner.heatherstewart

But for every one of those, there are many more like this:

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/4604985.speeding-driver-demands-justice/

The pragmatic way to deal with this is to provide the details of the one of you most likely to have been driving. If you cannot establish who was driving from the photographs, nor can anybody else.
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