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If you look at the NIP the first line of the address (which is not blanked out) is "The Company Secretary"

It says "To the Company Secretary (if applicable)"

I think they all say that.
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Quote from: Wildon on July 31, 2025, 03:59:37 pm
I moved out of my brothers house on the 23/05/2025 and changed address on V5. There has been no NIP sent to the previous address as I still check for any outstanding mail there.

Did you not think it necessary to mention in your opening post that you had changed the address on the V5C fewer than 14 days after the alleged offence?

Are you 100% certain that the original NIP was not sent to and received at your brother's address?

As others have said, make sure you reply to this request to identify the driver
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Proving you didn't receive something at an address you don't live at will be difficult at best.

You're just in COFP territory, £100 & 3 points. However should you take this to court and lose you would likely see 6 points, a fine of a weeks wages and prosecution costs.

How confident are you that your testimony that someone else said they didn't receive it would be accepted? You would only see the mail you were given by the occupants so you personally couldn't say it wasn't delivered. 
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Quote from: d612 on July 31, 2025, 04:37:46 pm
I think that means the Company Secretary or a responsible person being a director of the Company (which might be you) has to reply on behalf of the Company, being the registered keeper, naming the driver on the occassion.
The driver will then get another personal NIP requiring them to to supply all their details.

You think wrong
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Quote from: BertB on August 01, 2025, 09:42:00 am
How confident are you that your testimony that someone else said they didn't receive it would be accepted?
Which is of course hearsay evidence.
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Quote from: Southpaw82 on July 31, 2025, 01:00:01 pm
The OP doesn’t seem to want to overburden us with details. The “read this first” sticky might be of interest.
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Quote from: NewJudge on July 31, 2025, 04:54:11 pm
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If you look at the NIP the first line of the address (which is not blanked out) is "The Company Secretary"

It says "To the Company Secretary (if applicable)"

I think they all say that.

Not the one I helped someone fill in within the last 6 months from Thames Valley Police.
It was addressed directly and soley to the individual who was the registered keeper.
It added on in a couple of lines adjacent to the individual and their address that "If the addresse is a limited company the requirement for driver details is for the Company Secretary"

It may be other Police forces have different policies.....
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Quote from: d612 on August 01, 2025, 06:27:52 pm
Quote from: NewJudge on July 31, 2025, 04:54:11 pm
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If you look at the NIP the first line of the address (which is not blanked out) is "The Company Secretary"

It says "To the Company Secretary (if applicable)"

I think they all say that.

Not the one I helped someone fill in within the last 6 months from Thames Valley Police.
It was addressed directly and soley to the individual who was the registered keeper.
It added on in a couple of lines adjacent to the individual and their address that "If the addresse is a limited company the requirement for driver details is for the Company Secretary"

It may be other Police forces have different policies.....

I think the question you have to ask yourself is whether you’re contributing to this thread in a meaningful way or not.
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Not the one I helped someone fill in within the last 6 months from Thames Valley Police.

But this one does (and it is, after all, the only one we're interested in). Since there is no indication that the recipient is anybody other than a named individual, "If applicable" must come into play.
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