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Single Justice Procedure Notice for speeding
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I have received SJPN for driving 58mph on 50mph on N12 in London 2.30am driving a disabled Ukrainian refugee to Luton airport (my volunteering work outside of regular work) on 21 May 2024. I received NIP on 26 May 2024, to which I promptly responded confirming that I was the driver. Stupidly, I posted the form by regular mail, not recorded. The SJPN arrived on the 28 November 2024 stating that I have not satisfied the requirements of the Fixed Penalty. The Fixed Penalty was paid, but "they failed to provided their licence details for electronic endorsement and a refund was requested". I don't understand that statement: on the copy of the form I completed back in May it is clear that I written my driving licence, and there is no mentioning of any refund. So they withdrew the offer of Fixed Penalty. I probably will plead guilty because I cannot argue against an automatic camera. But I don't want to complete three pages of my financial information and my employer info. Is it mandatory to do or optional? In one place they said that providing my financial info may help me not to be overcharged, but in another place they state that I may be prosecuted if I don't declare all the facts. Please advise.

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Provide the info.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

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You have o submit your licence details twice - once when you respond confirming you were the driver and again after you have accepted the fixed penalty. Many people overlook this and see their case end up in court as you have.

There are a couple of other things you might like to consider as well.

Firstly, if the offence date was 21st May, the police must begin a prosecution by 21st November. It's probably in time but it might be worth checking the date the charge was issued.

The other thing is that it would be worth asking the court to consider sentencing you at the fixed penalty equivalent. Magistrates have the discretion to do this if they believe it is justified. Although the reason your case has gone to court is entirely your fault, you may find a kindly magistrate sees fit to do so. You should make your request under the "mitigation" section when responding to the SJPN.

As far as completing the form MC100 goes, it is (apparently) an offence to fail to provide your financial information when asked. I don't know what legislation covers that and I have never heard of anybody being prosecuted for it, but I don't see any point in not providing it. If you do not the court has the discretion to make what assumptions it thinks fit about your income though they normally simply revert to a default figure of £440pw. If you make a request to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level and it is refused, that is the figure that will be used to calculate your fine. Although the form asks for quite a lot of information, it is principally your income the court is interested in and if you simply provide that I doubt there will be any comeback.

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Thank you very much for responding to my enquiry. Apologies, I have not uploaded the paperwork initially - there are 22 pages that arrived through the post! I have now attached 8 pages of most relevant info.
Now I understand that there should have been a second letter which apparently was posted on the 19/06/24 a Conditionsl offer of Fixed Penalty, which I must have received because the Witness Statement says it has been paid.  I am checking all my cards trying to find when dis I pay it but cannot locate it. I cannot remeber what happened in June but i would have paid if i had the letter.
So I guess my best option is to plea guilty and beg to sentence me at the fixed penalty equivalent as advised.
My only worry is if they see my salary they will charge me much higher than £440.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2024, 06:49:22 pm by Southpaw82 »

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For some reason only one attachment arrived, hence I am resending the other 7.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2024, 06:49:36 pm by Southpaw82 »

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Only 4 attachments allowed at once, hence another email with the final attachments. Sorry for the traffic.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2024, 06:49:44 pm by Southpaw82 »

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Apologies, I have not uploaded the paperwork initially - there are 22 pages that arrived through the post! I have now attached 8 pages of most relevant info.

Ignoring that you have not, and that attaching images directly to the forum rather than linking to images hosted on third party sites is generally a bad idea, relevant to what?

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Now I understand that there should have been a second letter which apparently was posted on the 19/06/24 a Conditionsl offer of Fixed Penalty, which I must have received because the Witness Statement says it has been paid.  I am checking all my cards trying to find when dis I pay it but cannot locate it. I cannot remeber what happened in June but i would have paid if i had the letter.

Most people would remember receiving a COFP. N.B. Just because it says in the tubby's witness statement that the fixed penalty was paid doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't, but the statements are generally semi-automatically generated from tick-boxes - if the tubby ticked the "COFP paid but no licence details box" instead of the "COFP not paid" box, this would be the result.

Are you assuming that you must have paid the COFP just because the generated statement says so, or is it likely that you did and forgot about it?
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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I've realised that I am one of those "entitled, lazy or stupid" people who don't read "Read Before You Post". Didn't see it until now. I will remove the attachments from the forum - sorry about that.
I am on a course with a psychologist about my mental health, and memory loss is one of the symptoms.  I might have had the COFP letter in June, but I dont remeber clearly. That is why
I was trying to locate the payment because I would paid if asked.
Anyway, the advice given was helpful, thank you for it. I will plead guilty and ask for mitigation as suggested.

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The "read this first" post was updated after your post.
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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I wanted to say a mega thank you for the advice given to my enquiry. I was very confused when received SJPN, but after a few exchanges the matter became much clearer to me. I responded as advised, pleaded guilty and begged to consider sentencing me at the fixed penalty equivalent.Today I received a court decision with £100 fine and 3 points. This is a fixed penalty equivalent, which is the best outcome I could get. I am happy and grateful to this forum. Without your advice I would be in much worse situation. :)

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Good result. Thanks for letting us know.