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I know this is all irrelevant but figure I'll include it anyway:

Until 5 months ago, I had a completely clean license. I then received 3 Nips in quick succession (all for driving on the M4 in newport at between 52-57 mph in the 50 zone on the M4). One resulted in a speed awareness course, and I got two lot's of 3 points. Then in February, I received another NIP for driving 57mph in a 50 this time on the M5 in worcestershire - another 3 points.

I now drive very cautiously, and ensure not to push my speed, so I was very surprised to receive another NIP in the post yesterday. Again, for driving at 57mph in the 50 zone in newport (at 6:30 am on a sunday - not that it really matters!). Now, I doubt I could argue with average speed cameras - but I do recall the journey, and recall sitting at 50, and even remember feeling slightly relieved as I got to the end of the zone (because it's quite hard keeping your speed to 50 on a deserted motorway). To say I'm gutted is an understatement, and whilst I get the law is black and white, it kind of feels a bit remiss that such small margins are being pursued, and resulting in a possible ban - is that really in the public interest?

Obviously, that's not an argument I can win... so realistically, what are my options? Complete the NIP, wait for the summons - then what? I'd struggle to prove exceptional hardship - I run my own business which does require me to attend client meetings, but I understand that isn't really exceptional hardship. I do have a family (3 kids) - but my wife drives (although she works long hours), so arguing that they can't get to clubs and events isn't really valid. Is this a lost cause?

 

Quote from: JungleMan on June 02, 2025, 11:06:35 am

it kind of feels a bit remiss that such small margins are being pursued, and resulting in a possible ban - is that really in the public interest?

10% + 2mph before action is taken.  Not such a small margin.  But as you hint, how the points are gained is irrelevant to an EH plea.

Maybe - but less so my previous ones for 52mph and 54mph... I kind of wish I'd fought those now rather than just accepting the points/course.

Thank you for your response. 

We have often seen on here claims of action being taken for speeding below the police guidance of (Limit + 10% +2mph). There has never been, as far as I am aware, any evidence to support those claims.

Do you have any paperwork which could substantiate those speeds/limits which you could post up? If the police have begun enforcement below the thresholds they are said to use, it would help us advise others.