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NIP 66 in a 50 - first time, what to expect
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I've received an NIP for 66 in a 50. My license is clean, but also less than 2 years old. What can I expect? Should I get a solicitor?
It was 11pm on a main road. I'm aware that this is a serious one, and I really don't want to lose my license. Any information welcome thanks.

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Re: NIP 66 in a 50 - first time, what to expect
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What can I expect?
A fixed penalty of 3 points £100.

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A fixed penalty of 3 points £100.

Thanks for the response.
On the NIP it states 6 points, I thought 16 over was more severe?

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On the NIP it states 6 points
I bet it doesn't.  Read it again carefully.

The 6 points is most likely referring to failing to comply with the s172 (driver nomination) request.

Whilst it's true that speeding offences can carry up to 6 points, it's quite different to saying it is 6 points.

That excess is too much for an awareness course but qualifies for a fixed penalty.  You'll need to try harder to get a court hearing (76 mph).
« Last Edit: April 19, 2025, 07:03:27 pm by JustLoveCars »

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The 6 points is most likely referring to failing to comply with the s172 (driver nomination) request.

It does say that, but it also says "The alleged offence carries a maximum fine of £1,000 and a driving license endorsement of 6 penalty points or disqualification at the discretion of the courts." which is what concerns me.

I've done some more research, and it says that 66 in a 50 comes under the more severe band B which means 4-6 points? Is there anything I can do to guarantee it's not 6 so I can avoid losing my license

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Simple name the driver (yourself?) ASAP. You should then get an offer of a fixed penalty of 3 points and £100. Accept that and that will be the end of the matter.

The Band B stuff only applies if the matter goes to court, this shouldn't happen. Fixed penalties are offer up to 25 MPH above the limit (exception is a 30 limit where it s up to 20 MPH above). So in a 50 limit any speed below 75 should see a fixed penalty offer.

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I've done some more research, and it says that 66 in a 50 comes under the more severe band B which means 4-6 points? Is there anything I can do to guarantee it's not 6 so I can avoid losing my license
Not thorough enough research, it would seem. The bands are only if you end up in a court room. While never any guarantees of anything, if you respond to correspondence correctly and promptly, it'll be dealt with via a fixed penalty: £100 and 3 points.

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I've done some more research, and it says that 66 in a 50 comes under the more severe band B which means 4-6 points? Is there anything I can do to guarantee it's not 6 so I can avoid losing my license

Presumably you’re here because you don’t have a clue about speeding offences. Those who have at least a modicum of knowledge about them have told you what to expect. Nevertheless, you have gone away to do some “research” on Google to come back and challenge them? (Incidentally, none of your research seems to have told you how to spell “licence”). Either be grateful for the advice that tells you it’s not as bad as you first thought or go away.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.
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If you face anything like this again, bear in mind that any legal notices you receive which mention potential penalties usually inform the recipient of the maximum penalties available to a court. Financial penalties are calculated according to the defendant's means and are based on multiples of his net weekly income. Very rarely are maximum financial penalties imposed (and in fact cannot be if the defendant pleads guilty)

Particularly as far as road traffic offences go, the police have "out-of-court" remedies (courses and fixed penalties) available to them for the most common offences which they will invariably offer for all but the most serious of transgressions. Only a minority of speeding allegations end up in court.

To help with your research, here is the guideline document which police use when deciding how to deal with speeding offences:

https://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf

If you scroll to section 9.6 you will see a table showing the thresholds where courses and fixed penalties will normally be offered for each speed limit.