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NIP 36 in 30, location unclear
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I received a NIP to say I was doing 36 in a 30, in the West Mercia area, on ‘manned equipment’.  However, the photo only shows a zoomed in image of the car and it is not possible to see where along the road the alleged offence occurred.  The road has sections that are 30, 40 and 60 and if it was in the 30 then fair enough, but there is no way for me to see.  Does anyone have any advice if it is worth exploring this with the Police?  Thanks

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I received a NIP to say I was doing 36 in a 30, in the West Mercia area, on ‘manned equipment’.

No, you have not.

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However, the photo only shows a zoomed in image of the car and it is not possible to see where along the road the alleged offence occurred.  The road has sections that are 30, 40 and 60 and if it was in the 30 then fair enough, but there is no way for me to see.  Does anyone have any advice if it is worth exploring this with the Police?

There is no obligation to disclose any evidence to you at this stage. Some forces seem to send out close up photos of the vehicle to pre-empt requests for photos to help to identify the driver. If the allegation is that the (as yet unidentified) driver of the vehicle was exceeding the 30mph limit, then the allegation includes the vehicle being in the 30mph section when the speed was recorded.

The police are under absolutely no obligation to prove anything to your satisfaction at any stage. If the matter were to proceed to a contested trial at court, the police would need to prove their case to the court beyond any reasonable doubt, and you would be entitled to see that evidence, and challenge it if appropriate.

You are proposing to go on a fishing trip on the off-chance that the police have made a right horlicks of it and caught your vehicle at 36 in a 40 or 60 limit. Whether the force in question would entertain a request to satisfy your curiosity is a matter for them, but I would expect that their response to such a request would be able to be accurately summarised in two words, the second being "off".

I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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Does the given location give any clues?   Such as A123 opposite The Street?

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JustLoveCars - thanks for your response.  unfortunately they just say the road name and number (which is a few miles long with varying speed limits), they don’t say anywhere specific along it.     

It seems, according to the first reply, that i’m only likely to get more info from the Police if i challenge this, risking a higher penalty.   I’d like to think the Police have got this right, but i was just seeing where i stood.



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As noted, you can always ask but they are under no obligation to respond at this time…

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And bear in mind that whatever you decide to do regarding the allegation itself, you must respond to he request for driver’s details within the 28 days allowed. Failure to do so will see you commit a separate offence which carries six points.