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M50 Bow Lane - speeding exceeding 70mph
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Morning,

Basically, I have received a NIP for Speeding - exceed 70mph Motorway limit - Manned equipment. Vehicle speed 80mph.

The stretch of the M50 in question has no Speed Camera/warning signage. Haven driven this stretch of road a few times since, the manned camera appears to be a Male operating out of a Grey people carrier, on the opposite side of the road, with no Hi-Viz signage, both personally or on vehicle.

Happy to scan and post correspondence, was just seeing if there was a quick resolution.
Many thanks
Lynch



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Re: M50 Bow Lane - speeding exceeding 70mph
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There was a popular misconception many years ago, that there was a requirement for speed cameras to be conspicuous in order for the speeding offence to be prosecuted. This was largely due to Tony Blair saying that that was going to be the case. Surprisingly enough, it was a big fat lie.

What the rules actually were, before they were rescinded many years ago, at first glance at least, that in order for the safety camera partnerships to be able to retain the income from the fixed penalties (and return any surplus they hadn't managed to fiddle to the exchequer), 85% of enforcement sites had to meet the conspicuity requirements. This had no bearing whatsoever on the admissibility of the evidence, it was just a rule regarding keeping the money. Except that the rules were enforced by the safety camera partnerships themselves - if they became aware that they were not complying with the rules, they had the power to report themselves to themselves and then decide whether or not they still ought to keep the money.

I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

Re: M50 Bow Lane - speeding exceeding 70mph
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...was just seeing if there was a quick resolution.
Absent any actual defence (nothing you've said so far hints at one) then the quickest resolution will be a course to avoid the points or a fixed penalty (3 points £100).

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...was just seeing if there was a quick resolution.
Absent any actual defence (nothing you've said so far hints at one) then the quickest resolution will be a course to avoid the points or a fixed penalty (3 points £100).

Thank you for your time in responding.
I genuinely don't dispute that I was speeding, it is just annoying because I genuinely try to abide by the speed limit. Whilst not an excuse, I was over taking another motor vehicle, my bad.
Cheers

Re: M50 Bow Lane - speeding exceeding 70mph
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There was a popular misconception many years ago, that there was a requirement for speed cameras to be conspicuous in order for the speeding offence to be prosecuted. This was largely due to Tony Blair saying that that was going to be the case. Surprisingly enough, it was a big fat lie.

What the rules actually were, before they were rescinded many years ago, at first glance at least, that in order for the safety camera partnerships to be able to retain the income from the fixed penalties (and return any surplus they hadn't managed to fiddle to the exchequer), 85% of enforcement sites had to meet the conspicuity requirements. This had no bearing whatsoever on the admissibility of the evidence, it was just a rule regarding keeping the money. Except that the rules were enforced by the safety camera partnerships themselves - if they became aware that they were not complying with the rules, they had the power to report themselves to themselves and then decide whether or not they still ought to keep the money.

Nothing like a bit of self regulation  ;D

The Journey I take M5, M50, A40 has a couple of Camera Vans on its route, The locations of which I am familiar with. So for me to receive the NIP without any expectance really did surprise me, the camera was definitely discreet,
Also, the 20+ miles of the M50 has no Speed Camera signs displayed.

As I have mentioned, I am not excusing the fact I was speeding, obviously I would ideally like to avoid the fine and points but hey ho. I just question why the Constabularies bother with the signage in the first place if it is not required. The whole 165 miles of my journey has Speed camera warnings/in operation signs apart from the said section of the M50.