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I was banned yesterday for a totting up conviction.  I am now facing 6 months of no driving

I used a dedicated solicitors for this to help with my case but was judged not to be enough of a hardship case.  I'm utterly gutted as I will now be let go from my job as it's part of my remit to be able to drive.

Myself and the barrister appointed to me at the hearing thought that I had a very good case to offer not to be banned for this period.  So far this has cost in the region of £2k

Has anyone experience or can offer some advice if it is worth appealing this and going to the Crown Court with it.  I do feel that the evidence given was sufficient to grant a hardship waver

Any advice would be extremely welcome

Thanks
Last Edit: August 19, 2026, 10:28:09 am by crez5150
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So, your barrister, who gets paid whether you win or lose, thought it was worth paying him £2k.

You seem to think that we can give meaningful advice on whether it is worth appealing to the Crown Court, based solely on your opinion that there was sufficient evidence for the magistrates to be able to find that a 6 month ban would cause exceptional hardship.

I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.
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It was £1500 to the solicitors and nearly £500 court costs.  I was wondering if anyone had gone down the appeal route and what their experience was, that was all really. 

As the judges did not give any reply to me
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It will be hard for anyone to offer meaningful advice as to your chances of success, when you have told us nothing about the grounds upon which you relied in the first place, nor the evidence you presented to make your case for exceptional hardship.
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It was £1500 to the solicitors and nearly £500 court costs.  I was wondering if anyone had gone down the appeal route and what their experience was, that was all really. 

As the judges did not give any reply to me
Other people’s “experience” of an appeal to the Crown Court is irrelevant. Facts matter. The point being made to you is that you’ve given us zero relevant facts.

What is there that would mean banning you creates exceptional hardship? That’s all that matters.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.
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Appeals from the magistrates’ court to the Crown Court are heard “de novo”, which means afresh, from scratch. So you do not have to put forward the same argument as you did in the magistrates’’ court.

One thing to bear in mind if you do appeal to the Crown Court is that your appeal will be heard by a judge and two magistrates (from a different Bench to the one where you were disqualified). The judge rules on matters of law but all three decide on matters of fact (on which your appeal will be entirely based)..

This means the two magistrates can outvote the judge. Furthermore, judges do not deal with “exceptional hardship” arguments very often, whereas the magistrates do. The judge may not have the same “feel” for the argument as the magistrates.

As above, you should beware of lawyers who suggest you have a good chance of success. They get paid regardless.

The only hardship you have mentioned is that you will lose your job. Here’s the guidance which magistrates (and the Crown Court) use when deciding EH arguments:

When considering whether there are grounds to reduce or avoid a totting up disqualification the court should have regard to the following:

It is for the offender to prove to the civil standard of proof that such grounds exist. Other than very exceptionally, this will require evidence from the offender, and where such evidence is given, it must be sworn.

Where it is asserted that hardship would be caused, the court must be satisfied that it is not merely inconvenience, or hardship, but exceptional hardship for which the court must have evidence.

Almost every disqualification entails hardship for the person disqualified and their immediate family. This is part of the deterrent objective of the provisions combined with the preventative effect of the order not to drive.

If a motorist continues to offend after becoming aware of the risk to their licence of further penalty points, the court can take this circumstance into account.

Courts should be cautious before accepting assertions of exceptional hardship without evidence that alternatives (including alternative means of transport) for avoiding exceptional hardship are not viable.

Loss of employment will be an inevitable consequence of a driving ban for many people. Evidence that loss of employment would follow from disqualification is not in itself sufficient to demonstrate exceptional hardship; whether or not it does will depend on the circumstances of the offender and the consequences of that loss of employment on the offender and/or others.


You will note from the final paragraph that losing your job, by itself, is unlikely to see a successful EH plea. I don’t know whether your barrister mentioned that to you when you discussed your case. Another thing which magistrates consider for those claiming hardship through loss of employment is mentioned a couple of paragraphs earlier. Many take the view that if driving is so essential, why did the defendant continue to offend, knowing that his licence was in jeopardy?

Previous experiences are not much help with this issue because every case turns individually on its merits. But you should also be aware that an appeal will see you further out of pocket as your barrister will want paying, win or lose. If you are unsuccessful, the CPS will ask for more costs, possibly in eh region of £700.
Last Edit: August 19, 2026, 02:41:55 pm by NewJudge
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