Is it worth getting a lawyer?

A Little bit about me.

I have 9 points on my licence. (I know I should be more attentive to my speed limit and pay attention to camera signs)
I am the same person that wrote this post: https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/nip-s-arrived-over-a-month-of-offence-all-offences-on-the-same-road/msg105428/#msg105428 (I got £80 fine in the end and didn't get licence suspended)


I have once again gotten a speeding ticket, totally might fault.
Didn't see that the camera was not just for the red light. Did 43 in a 30.

Am going direct to court on this, no option given to go into speeding course as they say I this exceeds my allowed points.
Due to my history (Went to court in January and get given a second chance), is it even worth getting a lawyer for this?

I am kind of resigned that I will get my licence suspended and am preparing for the worse, however I still want to argue that I need my licence for work and this was just me being completely distracted and not used to having less cars on a road that usually busy. (I know this is not the best defence but think being honest is the only thing I got)

What is the weight that a lawyer might bring here and could they overturn this?

(Went to court in January and get given a second chance),

What exactly do you mean by that?

If you have nine points on your licence, do you mean you went to court in January and they imposed no points?

So I had 9 points on my licence since before going to court. In January I was in court and they just removed my oldest offence that had 3 points and put this last one.

Am going direct to court on this, no option given to go into speeding course as they say I this exceeds my allowed points.
Due to my history (Went to court in January and get given a second chance), is it even worth getting a lawyer for this?

Nothing to do with points, you were not offered a course because you were doing 43mph which exceeds the threshold for the offer.

When you say you were given a second chance in court, what do you mean? It can't have been a successful EH argument as you would be on 12 points but with no disqualification for 'totting up'. Were you acquitted due to the late NIP defence?

Either way, this should not affect your opportunity to use an(other) exceptional hardship argument in court as to why you should not lose your licence. Losing your job alone is not usually an accepted reason. Impact your ban would have on others would be more effective, but it is a difficult hurdle to jump these days. Other than job, what are your reasons?

BTW, this reads like you knew you were exceeding the limit but didn't think that particular camera would catch you.

Didn't see that the camera was not just for the red light. Did 43 in a 30.

So I had 9 points on my licence since before going to court. In January I was in court and they just removed my oldest offence that had 3 points and put this last one.

So basically you had 6 active points on your licence at the time of the offence?

Quote from: Believe82 on August 25, 2026, 10:13:10 am

So I had 9 points on my licence since before going to court. In January I was in court and they just removed my oldest offence that had 3 points and put this last one.

So basically you had 6 active points on your licence at the time of the offence?

No I had 9 points. I got punished in court and got to the appeals part where they said they were going to suspend my licence and if I had anything I wanted to say to prevent that.

I can't remember exactly what I said, something about needing the licence for work and that I was just distracted by it.

I can't remember exactly what I said, something about needing the licence for work and that I was just distracted by it.

That would not have succeeded as an "exceptional hardship" argument.

In January I was in court and they just removed my oldest offence that had 3 points and put this last one.

Courts do not do that. The points automatically become inactive for "totting up" purposes three years after the date of the offence.

You've got o help us a bit here if you want meaningful advice. Just providing small snippets of what happened (some of which are clearly wrong) doesn't help.

As a start, what were the dates of the offences which led to your previous points and of the one which led to your last court appearance?

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I can't remember exactly what I said, something about needing the licence for work and that I was just distracted by it.

That would not have succeeded as an "exceptional hardship" argument.

As I mentioned I cant remember exactly what I said. Just that I got to that stage and later I only got a fine for £80

In January I was in court and they just removed my oldest offence that had 3 points and put this last one.

Courts do not do that. The points automatically become inactive for "totting up" purposes three years after the date of the offence.

You've got o help us a bit here if you want meaningful advice. Just providing small snippets of what happened (some of which are clearly wrong) doesn't help.

As a start, what were the dates of the offences which led to your previous points and of the one which led to your last court appearance?

In the start of this post I posted my previous post with everything you need to know about my earlier issues.
I have no idea if it ran out, what I do know is it hadn't been 3 years.
It doesn't really matter anyways cause I was accused of 5 different speeding incidents at the time however they only put 3 points on my licence.

I also don't understand why my question has to do with earlier?
Base of the things, I was in court, they let me continue to drive in January and now I am going again, is it worth or not to get a lawyer?

I recently rewatched Lost! That series was much easier to follow than this thread...

... I also don't understand why my question has to do with earlier?...

Because what you've said so far on this thread doesn't really make any sense.

What you say the court did in january isn't how the process works.

In order to help you now people really need to know the background to your current situation - and that includes the outcome of your court appearance in January.  Unfortunately you didn't come back and update that thread at the time, and now you seem to have forgotten - or to have misunderstood - what happened at court in January.

As NewJudge said: "... You've got o help us a bit here if you want meaningful advice. Just providing small snippets of what happened (some of which are clearly wrong) doesn't help ..."

There's no point coming here asking for advice if you don't want to answer questions you are asked.

I have answered everything you asked truthfully.

 

...is it worth or not to get a lawyer?

I think you may need one to unravel what's actually happened as it may be critical.  (For example, let's just say you did have an EH accepted then you cannot run that argument again)

But Lawyers (Barristers) cannot magic defences if there isn't one.  As an example, see This recent thread.  The barrister gets paid (handsomely) no matter what the outcome for you...

Quote from: Believe82 on August 25, 2026, 12:31:09 pm

...is it worth or not to get a lawyer?

I think you may need one to unravel what's actually happened as it may be critical.  (For example, let's just say you did have an EH accepted then you cannot run that argument again)

But Lawyers (Barristers) cannot magic defences if there isn't one.  As an example, see This recent thread.  The barrister gets paid (handsomely) no matter what the outcome for you...

Thanks

Yes, get a lawyer. Hopefully they’ll be able to get to the bottom of this mess.

In the start of this post I posted my previous post with everything you need to know about my earlier issues.

I would beg to differ.

In your earlier post you mentioned seven allegations. You said you’d paid a fixed penalty for one and were thinking about doing the same for another (but we don’t know whether you did). We’ve no idea what happened with the remaining five.

Also according to your post, all the NIPs arrived after the 14-day period required by law (between 40 and 58 days after the alleged offences). You were advised what this means in terms of a possible defence.

The last we heard was that on January 11th you told us you had received a letter telling you to expect a date for a court hearing. And that’s that.

Now you tell us that you have another allegation made against you and all you can tell us about your earlier court appearance is that you were not banned. You gave two explanations for this, one of which (the court removing the earliest of the nine points you said you had) is plainly incorrect and the other (them allowing you to continue to drive because you said “something about needing a licence for work") is extremely unlikely.

So we need to know (as a minimum for starters):

What offences you either accepted fixed penalties for, or were convicted in court of, the offence dates and the number of points imposed. You can find this out by checking your driving record online:

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence

How many of those offences were dealt with at your earlier court appearance and why, with seven allegations that you mentioned, you were not disqualified.

That’s the only way you will begin to get any sensible advice on here.

You asked whether it was worth employing a lawyer. My answer is that if you are similarly reticent or unable to share important information with them as you are here, you are wasting your time and money.