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Hi folks i have just received 2 speeding tickets for the same location A446 Lichfield Road ,Coleshill North which has a limit of 30mph, one ticket was for 44mph and one for 50mph. One offence was dated 30/11/25 and the other 22/10/25 and the notice issue date is 19/2/26 for the NIP. I currently have no points on my license and no speed awareness courses on record in the last 3.5 years according too ndors.org.I am aware of the 14 day rule and i would like to know what are my best options for this scenario please? Thankyou Richard

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Re: 50mph in a 30mph .
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First question, are you the Registered Keeper (i.e. do you have the V5C document, in your name and current address)?

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Hi fuzzyduck . Yes i am the registered keeper . But my V5C is registered to my old address and the name was spelt wrong on the V5C and i never corrected it .To addone of the NIPs is spelt incorrectly like on the V5C the other is correct . The name and address is correct on my driving license .
« Last Edit: February 24, 2026, 02:02:18 pm by Rich72 »

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Presumably, as you are "aware of the 14 day rule", you will be aware both that a NIP delivered to the RK's last known address within the 14 days satisfies the requirements, and that where no NIP is served on the driver or RK within the 14 days, it is not a bar to conviction when the accused by his own conduct contributed to the failure.

For the 44 in a 30, you will not be offered a course, but you should be offered a fixed penalty. For the 50 in a 30, you will not be offered a fixed penalty (only offered up to 49). Expect 6 points in court, unless you have a viable defence that you have chosen not to trouble us with. Obviously, this is assuming that you comply withe the requirement to name the driver - failing to do so would earn you 6 points for each NIP.
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

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Thankyou for the response . So it will total 9 points for the offences and a fixed penalty of £100 for the non court offence. Will i have too attend court ? And what will there be a bigger fine for the 6 points?

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So it will total 9 points for the offences and a fixed penalty of £100 for the non court offence.

Correct.

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Will i have too attend court ?

Only if the "Single Justice" believes a ban should be considered, in which case you will be asked to attend a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. Nothing you have said suggests that will happen so you should be sentenced under the Single Justice Procedure with no attendance being necessary.

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And what will there be a bigger fine for the 6 points?

The court fine should be a week's net income, reduced by a third for your guilty plea. You will also pay a surcharge of 40% of that fine and prosecution costs of about £95.

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A friend of my partner at work is an ex copper and he is saying that potentially they might charge me with driving without due care ? Hes advising me too speak to a solicitor who deals with driving offences. What is your view on this? Thankyou

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My view is “don’t take legal advice from cops” (hint: they’re not lawyers).

Or to put it another way, he’s talking out of his hoop.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

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I saw in another post where someone was doing 52 in a 30 that it was mentioned that the person might get a 52 day ban instead of 6 points? How do you qualify for the 52 day ban instead of points? thankyou.

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Unfortunately there is a lo of rubbish and nonsense posted in various places about motoring law enforcement.

Magistrates have the power to impose a discretionary disqualification of any length for any offence which carries an endorsement. However, they are bound by law to follow the sentencing guidelines and must give their reasons if they depart from them. TThe guidelines for speeding are here:

https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/speeding-revised-2017/?source=7510

As you can see, the guideline sentence for 50mpn in a 30mph limit is either a ban of 7-28 days or between four and six points and it covers speeds of 41-50mph. The overwhelming likelihood in your case is six points. This is borne out by experience of drivers who have reported back after posting on here and from a few posters who have court experience in various roles.

My recommendations are twofold:

1. Never, ever, seek or accept legal advice from serving or former police officers*.

2. If you need any advice of a similar nature in future, stick to this site. It is effectively moderated; trolling is not permitted and is quickly shut down; you will get opinions from people who have a good idea of what they are talking about (as opposed to nonsensical suggestions such as the latest one you have learned)..

Do let us know the outcome. This helps us advise others.


[* - Mod edit - this applies to people whose sole "qualification" for giving legal advice is being an ex-cop.]
« Last Edit: February 25, 2026, 10:46:07 am by andy_foster »

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You have been given advice here as to what the expected outcome will be by knowledgeable and in some cases qualified people. If you want to believe ex-coppers and randoms on the internet, who as already stated are talking out of their hoop, you will just wind yourself up before closure.

Have you returned the completed NIPs yet? For the earlier October offence (assuming its the 44mph case), the CTO will need to get an Conditional offer out to you which gives them time to allow you 28 days to respond and also not exceed the 6 month cut-off to prosecute. If you delay it for the full 28 days before replying, you risk this one ending up in the SJP lap as well, meaning higher fine and possibly more points also. 

Alternatively you could see if they are switched off enough to offer you a COFP where the 28 days to reply would take you past the 6 months...

Obviously if the October offence is 50/30 forget everything.

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Thankyou New Judge for your response. Im just stressed that i will be banned so im just trying to gather as much info and options as possible before i respond to them. With the 44 in 30 how will that be deemed in your opinion? Thankyou Bert for your advice. I have not responded yet too either as they both arrived on the same day and was dated 19/2/26. So what is the best course of action for me right now please. I have the money to pay the fines .Thankyou
« Last Edit: February 25, 2026, 10:11:16 am by Rich72 »

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Which of the two dates does the 44/30 applies to. Is it the October offence or November?

If you were to return the forms giving the name of the driver, the 44/30 would be issued a COFP for £100 & 3 points. If this was the earlier offence then time is not your friend to receive this. If the 50/30 is the earlier offence, I would delay returning the details for the full time allowable and see how switched on the CTO are in issuing a SJPN with the time period. 
« Last Edit: February 25, 2026, 10:24:56 am by BertB »

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The 44 is 22/10/25 .What would you advise is my best action too take Bert?
« Last Edit: February 25, 2026, 10:28:36 am by Rich72 »

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Then if you want £100 & 3 points offer for that offence, I would respond to that NIP sooner rather than later.

Personally for the 50mph offence only, I would delay responding to the notice for as long is allowed just to test how switched on the CTO is.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2026, 10:28:56 am by BertB »