Author Topic: 35MPH in a 30MPH section of Bath Road, London. SJPN received (with a twist ?)  (Read 6903 times)

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I suspect the courts take a more serious view of professional drivers breaking the law. I know driving these days is a nightmare with the plethora of signs and poor traffic management systems designed to reduce casualties, most of which do anything but that.

I suggest you be more aware of speed limits in future or you'll be of the rod for 6 months and your PH licencing office will be taking a look at revoking your licence. Make sure you inform them of your current status, if they find out via other methods they can revoke your PH licence. Double jeopardy I'm sorry to say.
Bus driving since 1973. My advice, if you have a PSV licence, destroy it when you get to 65 or you'll be forever in demand.

I suggest you be more aware of speed limits in future

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I couldn't get an SAC as the last one was 2 years and 50 weeks ago! I seem to get nicked every 3 years, always late at night with nothing else around.
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I suggest you be more aware of speed limits in future. Make sure you inform them of your current status, if they find out via other methods they can revoke your PH licence. Double jeopardy I'm sorry to say.

I already do just that. On a long enough timeline, with a full time driving jobs and speed limits changing overnight little by little, it is simply unavoidable and that is by design (as well as regular PCN's too). Bath road seems to have recently dropped from 40 to 30MPH in some sections. I proactively informed TFL and got their feedback so hopefully that should be sorted.

Thank you all for your feedback, I will go the S142 route. Wrote a new draft and will send it tomorrow, this is Lavender Hill so at SJS@justice.gov.uk (I think that's the correct one, I'll probably CC it to the enquiries one too.

It is also possible that the court simply didn't read the full plea, and automatically applied the standard procedure for a guilty plea. I'm assuming they must have hundreds of cases to deal with everyday, so they perhaps overlooked my mitigation statement.

I haven't mentionned once again the email from Laura Drury, not sure if I should still set it aside or not, in doubt, I didn't include it :

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Dear Clerk to the Justices,

I am writing to formally apply for my case (Ref: ) to be re-opened under Section 142 of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980, in the interests of justice.

1. On 3rd March 2026, I was sentenced to a total financial penalty of £269 for a speeding offence: exceeding a 30 mph speed limit (recorded at 35 mph). I believe the Court has erred by failing to apply the Sentencing Council’s guidance regarding 'Fixed Penalty Equivalents.'

In my original mitigation, it was submitted that:

2. I was eligible to receive a Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty, as my recorded speed was well within the acceptable threshold for such an offer.

3. I never received any Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty. While the Metropolitan Police witness statement claims one was issued, I state categorically that it was never served at my address.

4. The Sentencing Council guidance states: “Where a penalty notice was not offered... for reasons unconnected with the offence... the court should consider imposing a penalty equivalent to the fixed penalty.”

5. The current sentence of £269 puts me at a significant disadvantage compared to the £100 Fixed Penalty I would have accepted had I received the offer. Furthermore, based on my previous year’s net income of £15,391, this fine represents approximately 1.75% of my total annual income, which is disproportionately high for this level of offence.

6. I respectfully ask that the Court re-opens the case to adjust the fine, costs, and victim surcharge to match the Fixed Penalty Equivalent (a total of £100), as per the judicial guidelines.

I am not seeking to overturn the conviction (the 3 points), but rather to rectify an error in sentencing. According to the Sentencing Council’s 'Explanatory Material,' the Court should ensure an offender is not disadvantaged by the unavailability of a penalty notice. To achieve the Fixed Penalty Equivalent of £100, I propose the following structure: a fine of £72 and a victim surcharge of £28, with prosecution costs waived, as costs are not applicable in a standard Fixed Penalty scenario.

I also request a Stay of Execution on the current collection order while this application is considered.

I look forward to your response regarding a hearing date or a decision by a Single Justice to rectify this sentence.

Yours faithfully,

Paragraph 5 is misleading. The fine was not £269 – that is the total with surcharge and costs included. An income of £15,391 is £296pw. Half of that is £148 and a third off that for your guilty plea is £99. So with £40 surcharge and £130 costs, it is absolutely spot on for sentencing at the normal level.

You should note that the guidance only suggests that the court should consider sentencing at the FP level, not that it must. It is entirely a judicial decision whether or not to do so. I have to say that I see no reason why they should not, but courts do not like being dictated to. I would alter the tone slightly.

I would also leave out the final paragraph. Magistrates are perfectly aware of the guidelines and of the mechanism used to arrive at a sentence at the FP equivalent.

The process for this is that your request will first be screened by an administrator. Be prepared to meet some resistance to your request. I notice that, helpfully, you have not used the word “appeal”. This is the usual reason for declining o put a request before the court and usually results in a form to appeal in the Crown Court being supplied. Only the court can decide whether or not to re-open your case. It is a judicial decision to be taken by Magistrates, not an administrative one to be taken by a clerk. You must persevere if you meet that resistance.

There will be a hearing firstly to decide whether or not to re-open your case and, if that goes in your favour, another to consider whether or not to set aside the sentence and impose a different one. he court will combine these two hearings, and you will be asked to attend.

You should note that they are separate decisions. If the court decides against reopening your case, that is the end of the matter. If they do decide to reopen, this does not necessarily mean they will reverse the first court’s decision.