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1990child

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35mph in a 20mph
« on: March 12, 2025, 04:32:41 pm »
Received a NIP early February after being caught by a mobile camera device, doing 35mph in a 20mph zone.

Second offence, already have 6 points on my licence.

Received a response thanking me for my response and because I was going too fast, court proceedings are being initiated and I will receive communication shortly to advise of options available to me.

What am I looking at, realistically?

Please don't comment with anything unhelpful.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2025, 04:47:01 pm »
Band B covers 31-40mph in a 20mph limit - which is 4-6 points *or* a short ban - so probably 5 points, 100% weekly takehome pay fine (minus 1/3 discount for an early guilty plea). And 40% "surcharge" on the fine, and ~£95 prosecution costs for a guilty plea or ~£620 prosecution costs if you lose a contested trial.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2025, 06:58:42 pm »
So today I received an SJPN to submit my plea.

I've just submitted a guilty plea, but I'm now wondering, does this mean I'm still at risk of being banned from driving or if they were going to do this, they would have done so already?

Thanks for any further advice.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2025, 07:04:34 pm »
An SJPN commences proceedings against you. By definition, you cannot be banned before proceedings have commenced.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2025, 03:15:16 pm »
Quote from: 1990child on March 13, 2025, 06:58:42 pm
....does this mean I'm still at risk of being banned from driving....

As andy_foster has already said, your speeding falls into Band B which is 31-40mph in a 20mph limit.

This will attract between 4 and 6 points or a short ban.

Although not an exact science, unless there is some other aggravating factor you have not mentioned (such as passing a school at kicking-out time or similar) then 35mph is pretty much in the middle of the scale.

Almost certainly 5 points.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2025, 01:05:25 am »
I've logged onto view my driving licence online and it looks like I've been given 5 points plus a fine of £492 without any of the extra charges they will tag on.

I will be driving very VERY carefully for the foreseeable. Lesson has been well and truly learnt.

Thanks for all your replies.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2025, 01:14:03 am »
The DVLA site shows the endorsement (points and endorsement code) and the fine. It does not show the surcharge or prosecution costs.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2025, 01:28:23 am »
Thanks - I'm aware they need to add on the other charges. By being able to see the endorsement online it is just a weight off my mind knowing that I am not looking at a ban.
Quote from: andy_foster on March 15, 2025, 01:14:03 am
The DVLA site shows the endorsement (points and endorsement code) and the fine. It does not show the surcharge or prosecution costs.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2025, 10:55:03 am »
Quote from: 1990child on March 15, 2025, 01:05:25 am
I've logged onto view my driving licence online and it looks like I've been given 5 points plus a fine of £492 without any of the extra charges they will tag on...


That seems very quick if you only received the SJPN two days ago.
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2025, 11:35:18 am »
Indeed it does. Does your DVLA record show he date of conviction?
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2025, 02:05:03 pm »
Quote from: ManxTom on March 15, 2025, 10:55:03 am
Quote from: 1990child on March 15, 2025, 01:05:25 am
I've logged onto view my driving licence online and it looks like I've been given 5 points plus a fine of £492 without any of the extra charges they will tag on...


That seems very quick if you only received the SJPN two days ago.

Yeah I know - I'm guessing it's because I submitted an online plea
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2025, 02:06:27 pm »
Quote from: NewJudge on March 15, 2025, 11:35:18 am
Indeed it does. Does your DVLA record show he date of conviction?

Yes - shows the date of conviction as 14/03/2025
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2025, 02:10:25 pm »
Gosh, that's quick !!!
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2025, 09:01:49 am »
Incredibly quick.

Which Judicial area dealt with the matter?
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Re: 35mph in a 20mph
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2025, 07:32:57 pm »
Quote from: Freecall on March 16, 2025, 09:01:49 am
Incredibly quick.

Which Judicial area dealt with the matter?

South West London Magistrates Court
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