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Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #60 on: »
Hi,

MR S called from a withheld number around 1330, small claims mediation team and did say that he works independently as a mediator.  It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

3 options
pay the full amount 255
or give a figure to pay.
or no settlement.
i did say that my offer is £0.

He did say that he will pass on the details and now its up to the courts/ judge to decide.

Sorry i did not see your advice as was not close to my pc to check before the call.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2025, 06:07:14 pm by boxer29 »

Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #61 on: »
If he calls back, ask him those questions and note the details. As I said, this whole process is a complete waste of everyone time in these kind of claims.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Will they call again is it normal.
if i get i call i will ask them these questions.
Thanks

If they haven't called back, don't worry about it. As I said, this is not part of the judicial process and has no bearing on anything going forwards.

You are now waiting for the case to be transferred to your local county court and you will receive notice of that by post, followed by a 'directions' from a procedural judge with deadlines and any other orders that they deem necessary.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain



You are now waiting for the case to be transferred to your local county court and you will receive notice of that by post, followed by a 'directions' from a procedural judge with deadlines and any other orders that they deem necessary.
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Hi,
 
i have received on 20.10.25 a notice of transfer of proceeding to my local county court dated 2.10.25.

" The claim has been transferred to the county court ------------ for allocation. On receipt, the file will be referred to a procedural judge who will allocate the claim to track and give case management directions. Details of the judge's decision will be sent to you in a notice of allocation."

Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #65 on: »
Got the General form of Judgment or Order in post

IT IS ORDERRED THAT
1. Pursuant to CPR 3.4 the Claim is struck out.

2. As this order was made without a hearing any party may apply to set aside, vary or discharge it within seven days of being served with it.


shall i do anything ?

Thanks to all esp b789 for your help
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Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #66 on: »
Great news. Can you please post the order so we can see the detail and the clever judges reasoning.

Which county court and judge. No need to redact public domain info.

Another Moorside Legal failure for their vexatious client. What a bunch of incompetent wannabe Legal’s.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2025, 09:30:51 am by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #67 on: »
You can now seek your costs for the strike-out (reasonable preparation time, postage, copying, etc.) as per CPR 44.2 and CPR 27.14(2)(g) for unreasonable conduct.

Keep the envelope showing the postmark (if there is one) and note the date you received the order — that sets the seven-day countdown for any set-aside, should the claimant try (unlikely). After that period expires without an application notice from the claimant, write to the court asking for confirmation that the strike-out is final and requesting a summary assessment of your costs.

7 days after the date of the order (add 2 days for service), send your schedule of costs as an attachment by email to the court (you will have to find their email using HMCTS Court Finder) and you CC Moorside Legal at help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and yourself as follows:

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Subject: Claim no. [XXXX] – UKCPS Ltd v [Defendant] – Order striking out claim dated [date of order] – request for costs

Dear Sir or Madam,

I write as the Defendant in the above matter.

By General Form of Judgment or Order dated [date on the order], the Court ordered that, pursuant to CPR 3.4, the Claim is struck out. The Order further provided that any party wishing to apply to set aside, vary or discharge it must do so within seven days of service.

I received the Order on [date you received it]. The seven-day period for any application has now expired on [calculated expiry date], and I have not been served with any application by the Claimant, nor have I received any indication from the Court that such an application has been filed.

In those circumstances, I understand that the strike-out stands and that the proceedings are now at an end. I respectfully invite the Court to confirm that the strike-out is final and that there are no further hearings listed.

I also seek my costs of and occasioned by the Claimant’s conduct leading to the strike-out. A Schedule of Costs is attached to this email. I submit that the Claimant’s repeated failure to plead a coherent cause of action and failure to comply with the Court’s Order of 3 October 2025 amount to unreasonable conduct. I therefore ask the Court to summarily assess my costs, pursuant to CPR 27.14(2)(g) (if and in so far as the small claims track applies) and/or CPR 44.2 and the Court’s general case management powers pre-allocation.

I would be grateful if this request could be dealt with on the papers, if the Court considers that appropriate. If the Court requires any further information from me (including a brief witness statement exhibiting relevant correspondence and orders), I will provide it promptly.

Yours faithfully,

[Your full name]
[Your address]
[Your email]
Defendant

Attachment: Schedule of Costs – Defendant

And edit/amend this schedule of costs as necessary:

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Claim no: [XXXX]

Parties: UKCPS Ltd (Claimant) v [Defendant] (Defendant)

Hearing: Claim struck out on paper by Order dated [date of strike-out order]

Track: Small claims (costs sought under CPR 27.14(2)(g)) and/or CPR 44.2

COSTS SCHEDULE

1. Litigant in Person time

The Defendant is a litigant in person and claims time costs under CPR 46.5 at the applicable litigant in person rate of £24 per hour.

1.1. Considering and responding to the original defective Particulars of Claim; preparing initial Defence focused on CPR 16.4 and PoC defects

Time: [X.X] hours
Subtotal: £[X.X × 24]

1.2. Considering the Court’s Order dated 3 October 2025 and the Claimant’s subsequent “Further Particulars of Claim” served on 20 October 2025; identifying non-compliance and PoFA/signage defects

Time: [X.X] hours
Subtotal: £[X.X × 24]

1.3. Drafting correspondence to the Court inviting the Court to give effect to the automatic strike-out and addressing the Claimant’s non-compliance and conduct

Time: [X.X] hours
Subtotal: £[X.X × 24]

1.4. Preparing this Schedule of Costs and associated administrative work

Time: [X.X] hours
Subtotal: £[X.X × 24]

Total time claimed: [Total hours] hours
Total time costs: £[Total time costs]

2. Postage, copying and incidental expenses

2.1. Printing and copying of Defence, exhibits, and correspondence

Estimated pages: [number] at [e.g. 10p] per page
Subtotal: £[ ]

2.2. Postage of documents to the Court and to the Claimant (Royal Mail)

Subtotal: £[ ]

Total disbursements: £[ ]

3. Total costs claimed

Total time costs: £[ ]
Total disbursements: £[ ]

Grand total: £[ ]

4. Basis of costs sought

The Defendant seeks these costs on the basis that the Claimant has acted unreasonably in:

4.1. Issuing a claim with defective and opaque Particulars of Claim that did not disclose a coherent cause of action.
4.2. Failing to comply with the Court’s Order dated 3 October 2025, which gave clear and final directions as to what was required and warned that non-compliance would result in a strike-out.
4.3. Necessitating the Defendant’s time and effort in highlighting the continuing non-compliance, leading to the claim being struck out under CPR 3.4.

In all the circumstances, the Defendant submits that it is just for the Court to make an order for costs in the attached sum, to be summarily assessed on the papers.

Signed: [Your name]
Date: [date]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #68 on: »
Yes will do.
Thanks

Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #69 on: »
The struck out claim order dated 27th October.
The postage stamp on the envelope is same.


Re: UKCPS Parking NTK ( Postal -PoFA) issued on private land Mak Court WF13 4AF
« Reply #70 on: »
It’s not too late to ask for costs – especially where the court has only just made (and you’ve only just received) the strike-out order. The order is dated 24/27 October 2025 and strikes the claim out under CPR 3.4. The 7-day bit in paragraph 2 is only about any party applying to set aside/vary the order. That window has obviously long expired now.

There is no equivalent 7-day limit for you to ask for your costs. The court retains power to deal with costs after proceedings have been concluded (CPR 44.2). The usual expectation is simply that you act promptly and within a reasonable time, which you are.

So, send the email with your signed Schedule of Costs attached, and copy Moorside in. Here’s an updated version now that you have this more detailed order:

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Subject: M1MP6F3K – UKCPS Ltd v [Defendant] – Order dated 24/27 October 2025 (strike-out under CPR 3.4) – costs

Dear Sir or Madam,

I write as the Defendant in the above claim.

1. By General Form of Judgment or Order dated 24/27 October 2025, District Judge Robinson struck out the Claim pursuant to CPR 3.4, on the Court’s own motion, on the basis that the Particulars of Claim were defective under CPR 16.4 and did not identify the contractual term alleged to have been breached or the particulars of conduct amounting to any breach.

2. Paragraph 2 of the Order allows any party to apply to set aside, vary or discharge it within seven days of service. That period has now expired. I have not been served with any application by the Claimant and I understand from the Court file that no such application has been issued. I therefore proceed on the basis that the strike-out is final and the proceedings are at an end.

3. In light of the reasons given by the Court (defective pleadings and the need for the Defendant to know the factual case to answer from the outset), I submit that the Claimant has acted unreasonably in bringing and pursuing the claim in this way. I therefore seek my costs of and occasioned by the claim.

4. I attach a Schedule of Costs setting out the time I have spent as a litigant in person (claimed at £24 per hour) and my modest disbursements. I respectfully ask the Court to summarily assess those costs pursuant to:

• CPR 27.14(2)(g), on the basis of the Claimant’s unreasonable conduct; and/or
• CPR 44.2 and the Court’s general case-management powers, given that the claim has now been struck out under CPR 3.4.

5. I would be grateful if the Court could deal with this request on the papers if it considers that appropriate. If a brief witness statement exhibiting this Schedule and the relevant orders would assist, I will provide it promptly.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Defendant
[Address]
[Email]

CC: help@moorsidelegal.co.uk (Moorside Legal, for the Claimant)
Attachment: Schedule of Costs – [Your name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain