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Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« on: January 24, 2025, 06:25:31 pm »
Hi,

I have received court paperwork for a fine i had with UM parking control. Up until now, i was under the impression they would likely not take court action.

Gviven that thy have - what are my options.

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2025, 06:31:45 pm »
Your options are to read this and then give us more detail:

READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide

We can only assist if you give us the detail we need.

Show us the N1SDT Claim Form only redacting your personal details, the claim number, the vehicle VRM and the MCOL password. Leave everything else visible, especially all dates and the Particulars of Claim (PoC).
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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2025, 09:39:31 pm »
Thank you for the reply.

Here are the links for the letter received. Incase i am missing doing something please let me know.

https://imgur.com/a/bsXWEey

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2025, 09:04:43 am »
This is the only form we need to see but you’ve not followed the advice. I’ve redacted the items I told you to redact. However, I said to leave all dates showing and you’ve redacted just about the most important date.

What is the date of issue of the claim?

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2025, 03:04:57 pm »
Sorry for the mistakes. Thank you for rectifying.

The issue date is 22 Jan 2025

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2025, 03:31:55 pm »
Thank you. With an issue date of 22nd January, you have until 10th February to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). TO submit your AoS, follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

There is no advantage to delaying the AoS. By submitting the AoS, you then have until 4pm on Monday 24th February to submit your defence.

When you have submitted your AoS, let us know and we can then provide a suitable defence and draft order to accompany it. Please don't rush this and we are extremely busy assisting others so if you don't get a response from us immediately, you can remind us after a period. Remember, you have over 4 weeks before the deadline to submit your defence.
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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2025, 04:48:46 pm »
Hello

Thank you for the reply. Following your instructions i have now completed the AOS on MCOL.

Can you please advise what i need to do next. Thank you .

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2025, 05:12:48 pm »
Here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both documents as PDF attachments in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of UK Parking Control Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

UK Parking Control Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2025, 01:31:06 pm »
Thank you, for all.

I can send this as soon as possible, or i should wait for a date?

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2025, 01:40:12 pm »
There's no advantage to be gained from when you submit, as long as you do so by the deadline:
you then have until 4pm on Monday 24th February to submit your defence.
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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2025, 01:14:45 pm »
Thank you for all your help. Unfortunately i had got caught up in an urgent family matter and hav not been able to send this, i should have done it as soon as you sent itbut failed.

Do i have any options?

Thank you
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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2025, 11:23:35 pm »
Do you have any options? Did you submit an AoS?

The very first thing I suggest you do is check your MCOL history and see if you've already been issued a CCJ by default. You most likely have by now but, just in case you haven't, do two things in this order:

1. Submit the defence I provided (just the body, not the headers or Statement of Truth) using the MCOL webform.

2. Go buy a lottery ticket.

However, I suspect you already have a CCJ, in which case, if it was issued less than 30 days ago, you pay it in full. If you don't or more than 30 days have passed since the CCJ was issued, you are going to be in a world of financial pain for the next 6 years.
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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2025, 04:05:50 pm »
yes submitted the AOS, i never sent the last email that i was meant as got delayed.

SO i will do the othr things you mentioned above.

How do i chck if i have a CCJ

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2025, 04:18:11 pm »
How do i chck if i have a CCJ

b789's previous post says:
The very first thing I suggest you do is check your MCOL history and see if you've already been issued a CCJ by default.

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Re: Received Court Docs for a UK Parking Fine
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2025, 04:53:48 pm »
CCJ had already been issued, so i called DCB Legal and paid the amount. ON the claim form it said £287.40 but they charged me £314. They said its court fee cost or something like that.

Is that all i need to do now?

Thanks