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Hi guys,
I received a PCN (picture attached) from PPS for parking on their land without valid permit.
The reason why the driver parked there was because he did Amazon deliveries in few buildings next to their land, but because the road ahead was closed there was no other option available for parking. The driver put a note on the windscreen Amazon.
The location on the PCN The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway London is different from the location where the car was parked. The car was parked on Seagull lane.
I appealed the PCN with PPS and request some information, of course they reject the appeal and totally ignored my requests, answering me with generic template. I will write down the grounds of my appeal and will attach their Notice of Rejection.
Then, last night, I submitted appeal with POPLA (will write down the grounds). Today I received email with update that PPS uploaded their evidence of the appeal. Now I have 7 days to submit my response.

The grounds of the appeal with PPS:

"I write to formally challenge the above Parking Charge Notice and request that it be cancelled.
At the time of the alleged contravention, the vehicle was being used for the purpose of undertaking Amazon parcel deliveries within the development. Deliveries were being made to multiple buildings in the immediate area (Alder House, Salus house and The Oxygen) and the vehicle was present only for the period reasonably required to complete those deliveries. The reason why the driver parked at this location is because the road ahead was in full construction works, so there is no other parking options available for the purpose of the delivery. The vehicle displayed Amazon delivery identification, which is visible within your own photographic evidence. The vehicle was therefore being used in connection with active delivery duties and not for general parking purposes. I further note that your photographic evidence appears to show the construction works and access restrictions present within the area at the relevant time. These conditions significantly reduced the availability of alternative stopping locations and should be taken into account when considering the circumstances of this case.
Also the car hasn't been parked at the address in the PCN - 4 Western Gateway. The address provided in the PCN doesn't match the address of the picture.

In addition, all photographs made available through your online portal appear to have been taken at 11:48, whereas the Parking Charge Notice states an incident time of 11:58. The notice does not disclose any observation period, time first seen, or explanation as to how the alleged contravention time was established. Accordingly, please provide: � The warden's contemporaneous notes;
� Details of any observation period undertaken;
� The observation start and end times;
� Details of any observations made between 11:48 and 11:58;
� Confirmation of the evidential basis upon which the alleged contravention time of 11:58 was determined.

I respectfully request that the charge be cancelled in light of the genuine delivery activity being undertaken and the surrounding circumstances evidenced within your own photographs.
I'm attaching proof of delivery activities.

Should you decline this appeal, please provide a full response addressing each of the points raised above together with all evidence upon which you intend to rely.

Yours faithfully,"

The ground with POPLA:
"I am the Registered Keeper of the above vehicle and appeal against the Parking Charge Notice on the grounds set out below. I respectfully request that POPLA allows this appeal and directs the operator to cancel the Parking Charge Notice.

1. The operator has failed to establish that the alleged contravention occurred.

The Parking Charge Notice states that the alleged contravention occurred at 11:58.
However, every photograph made available by the operator is timestamped 11:48.
There is therefore a 10 minute discrepancy between the photographic evidence and the alleged contravention time.
In my initial appeal, I specifically requested:
the Civil Enforcement Officer's contemporaneous notes;
the observation period;
the time first seen;
the observation start and finish times;
details of any observations undertaken between 11:48 and 11:58; and
an explanation of how the alleged contravention time of 11:58 was determined.

The operator has ignored my requests. Instead, it issued a generic rejection which failed to address these questions entirely.

2. The driver was not improperly parked. The location on PCN is different from the location where the car was actually parked. The operator has failed to prove that the vehicle was parked at the location stated on the Parking Charge Notice.
The Parking Charge Notice identifies the location as:

The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway, London E16 1AZ.
However, the photographs supplied shows location Seagull lane.
Screenshots attached.
It is for the operator to prove that the alleged breach occurred at the location specified.
I raised this issue during my initial appeal.Again, the operator failed to answer this point and supplied no evidence confirming the precise location of the vehicle.

3. The vehicle was engaged in active commercial deliveries and was not parked in the ordinary sense.

At the material time the vehicle was undertaking Amazon parcel deliveries to multiple buildings within the development, including:

Alder House;
Salus House; and
The Oxygen.

Proof of these deliveries is enclosed.
The vehicle was present only for the period reasonably necessary to complete these deliveries before departing. It was not left for general parking purposes.

The vehicle also displayed Amazon delivery identification, which is visible in the operator's own photographic evidence.
The operator therefore knew, or ought reasonably to have known, that the vehicle was engaged in active delivery duties rather than ordinary parking.

This distinction is recognised in Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd (Oxford County Court, Appeal, 2016), where His Honour Judge Charles Harris QC held that temporary stopping for the purposes of loading or unloading is fundamentally different from parking. The judgment recognised that activities such as deliveries require vehicles to stop temporarily and that such stopping does not fall within the ordinary meaning of "parking".
The vehicle was present only for the period reasonably necessary to complete those deliveries.

The rejection letter entirely ignores this fact.

4. Extreme circumstances prevented the driver from parking correctly.
Construction works  affected the availability of alternative stopping locations.
At the relevant time, extensive construction works were taking place immediately beyond the location where the vehicle stopped.
These works are clearly visible in the operator's own photographs.
The construction significantly restricted access and removed the availability of alternative locations where delivery drivers could safely stop while undertaking deliveries within the development.

This was specifically explained in my original appeal.
The operator has failed to address this point

5. Failure to properly consider the appeal

My original appeal raised several specific factual and evidential issues, namely:

the discrepancy between the photographic timestamps and the alleged contravention time;
the apparent mismatch between the location stated on the Parking Charge Notice and the location shown in the photographs;
the fact that the vehicle was undertaking Amazon deliveries;
the surrounding construction works restricting alternative stopping locations; and
a request for the Civil Enforcement Officer's contemporaneous notes and observation records.

The operator's rejection failed to address any of these points.

6. BPA Code of Practice

As a member of the British Parking Association (BPA) Approved Operator Scheme, the operator is required to comply with the BPA Code of Practice.

The Code requires operators to act fairly, consider representations properly and maintain appropriate evidence when enforcing parking charges.

In this case, the operator has failed to explain the discrepancy between the evidence and the alleged contravention time, failed to provide the requested observation records, and failed to engage with the substantive issues raised in my appeal.

I respectfully submit that this falls short of the standards expected under the BPA Code of Practice.

7. Poor handling of personal data

The photographic evidence supplied by the operator contains the registration numbers of unrelated vehicles that have not been redacted or obscured.

Vehicle registration numbers constitute personal data where they relate to identifiable individuals.

As a data controller, the operator is required to process personal data in accordance with the UK General Data Protection Regulation and the Data Protection Act 2018, including the principles of lawful processing and data minimisation.

Whilst I acknowledge that POPLA is not responsible for determining data protection complaints, the operator's failure to redact unrelated personal data demonstrates poor handling of evidence and raises concerns regarding the overall care taken in preparing its case.

Evidence enclosed:

Copy of the Parking Charge Notice.
Copy of my original appeal to the operator.
Copy of the operator's rejection letter.
Amazon proof of delivery records.
Screenshots showing delivery locations and timestamps.
Copies of the operator's photographs showing the Amazon delivery identification, construction works and timestamp discrepancy.
Any additional photographs or maps demonstrating the actual location of the vehicle and the surrounding roadworks."

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Re: PCN from PPS/The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway London
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This is the rejection


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Re: PCN from PPS/The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway London
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Their response in POPLA:

Operator Name
Private Parking Solution (London) - EW

Operator Case Summary

Dear POPLA Assessor, Private Parking Solutions (London) Ltd respectfully submits that the Parking Charge was issued correctly and in full accordance with the contractual Terms and Conditions displayed throughout the site. The operator has provided the Parking Charge Notice, photographic evidence of the vehicle, photographs of the signage, a site map identifying the controlled parking area and signage locations, evidence of landowner authority and a copy of the appeal rejection letter. The evidence demonstrates that the Parking Charge Notice was issued correctly after the driver failed to comply with the clearly displayed Terms and Conditions of parking. The site is private land operating as a permit holders only parking area. The signage is prominently displayed throughout the site and clearly states that a valid Private Parking Solutions permit must be clearly displayed on the front windscreen at all times. The signs further advise motorists that failure to comply with the Terms and Conditions will result in the issue of a Parking Charge Notice of £100. The wording on the signage is clear, unambiguous and capable of forming a contractual agreement between the motorist and the operator. The appellant accepts that the vehicle was parked on the site but submits that it was being used for Amazon parcel deliveries within the surrounding residential development. The operator does not dispute that the appellant may have been carrying out deliveries. However, undertaking deliveries does not provide any exemption from complying with the contractual Terms and Conditions displayed on privately managed land. The parking restrictions apply equally to all motorists regardless of the purpose of their visit. There is no contractual exemption permitting Amazon delivery drivers or any other commercial vehicle to park without displaying a valid Private Parking Solutions parking permit. The appellant further states that roadworks prevented parking elsewhere and therefore there were no alternative parking options available. Whilst the operator acknowledges that roadworks may have been taking place on the surrounding public highway, this does not alter the contractual Terms and Conditions governing the privately managed parking area. Private Parking Solutions has no control over parking arrangements on the public highway and roadworks do not authorise motorists to park on private land in breach of the clearly displayed parking conditions. The appellant relies upon the fact that an Amazon delivery notice was displayed inside the windscreen. The operator's photographic evidence clearly shows that whilst an Amazon identification notice was present, there was no valid Private Parking Solutions parking permit displayed on the windscreen as required by the contractual signage. An Amazon delivery notice is not a parking permit issued by the operator and does not authorise parking within this permit-controlled site. The requirement is for a valid Private Parking Solutions permit to be displayed, and this requirement was not met. The Parking Charge was therefore issued correctly for the reason stated, namely Not Clearly Displaying a Valid Permit. The appellant also argues that the vehicle was not parked at the address stated on the Parking Charge Notice and suggests that the photographs correspond to a different location. This assertion is incorrect. The vehicle was parked within the private parking area managed by Private Parking Solutions at The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway, London, E16 1AZ. The site plan supplied by the operator clearly identifies the parking area under management together with the locations of the contractual signage. The operator's landowner agreement also confirms that Private Parking Solutions is authorised to enforce parking restrictions throughout this parking area. Although nearby residential buildings may have postal addresses on Seagull Lane, the parking bays themselves form part of the managed private development covered by the operator's authority. Accordingly, the location recorded on the Parking Charge Notice is correct. The appellant also raises the issue that the photographs available online are timestamped between approximately 11:48 and 11:48:34, whereas the Parking Charge Notice records the incident time as 11:58. The operator respectfully submits that this does not invalidate the Parking Charge Notice. The photographs simply record the Civil Enforcement Officer's inspection of the vehicle. The incident time recorded on the Parking Charge Notice is the official contravention time entered into the operator's enforcement system. There is no requirement under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 or the BPA Code of Practice that every evidential photograph must display precisely the same timestamp as the recorded incident time. The photographs clearly demonstrate that the vehicle remained stationary within the permit-controlled parking area and that no valid permit was displayed during the inspection. The appellant requests the Civil Enforcement Officer's contemporaneous notes together with observation times. The operator respectfully submits that no mandatory observation period applies to the contravention of failing to clearly display a valid parking permit. The contravention occurs immediately upon a vehicle being parked without displaying the required permit. Unlike certain parking restrictions where an observation period may be appropriate, the absence of a valid permit is an immediately observable breach of the contractual Terms and Conditions. The operator nevertheless obtained multiple photographs from various angles before issuing the Parking Charge Notice, demonstrating that the vehicle remained parked and that no valid permit was displayed. The appellant further suggests that the vehicle was only present for the time reasonably required to complete deliveries. However, the duration of parking does not alter the contractual obligations accepted by the driver upon entering and parking within the site. The contractual requirement is to display a valid Private Parking Solutions permit at all times whilst parked. Whether the vehicle remained for five minutes or fifty minutes is therefore immaterial, as the breach occurred immediately when the vehicle was parked without the required permit. The operator has also provided evidence confirming that it has full written authority from the managing agent to manage parking, install signage, issue Parking Charge Notices and pursue unpaid parking charges on this site. The landowner authority specifically authorises enforcement against vehicles parked without displaying a valid permit, thereby satisfying the requirements of the BPA Code of Practice. The appellant's appeal relies primarily upon mitigation relating to delivery activity, surrounding roadworks and alleged discrepancies in location and timestamps. Whilst the operator appreciates the circumstances described, mitigation cannot override the contractual Terms and Conditions accepted by the driver when choosing to park on private land. POPLA has consistently held that it is not within its remit to allow appeals solely on the basis of mitigating circumstances where the contractual parking terms have been breached. The operator has demonstrated that the signage was sufficient to bring the parking terms to the attention of motorists, that the vehicle was parked within the managed parking area, that no valid Private Parking Solutions permit was displayed and that the Parking Charge Notice was issued in accordance with the contractual Terms and Conditions. The appellant has not disputed that no valid permit was displayed and has instead relied upon mitigation which does not negate the contractual breach. In view of the above, Private Parking Solutions (London) Ltd respectfully requests that POPLA concludes that the Parking Charge Notice was issued correctly and dismisses the appeal.

Re: PCN from PPS/The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway London
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They uploaded their contract with the landowner and map where they can operate. Map is different from what it is in the contract.
In their response they also didn't address the breach of GDPR with the other car registration if that matters.
Also the contract looks more like draft rather like final and officially signed contract. It looks dodgy.

Should I upload here the contract and the map?

Re: PCN from PPS/The Grainstore, 4 Western Gateway London
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The NtK is not PoFA compliant so this is a case of sitting it out and playing the game.