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ANPR fine issued by Parking Control Management UK (PCM)
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Hello,

I have been issued a PCN by PCM for getting into Chelsea Bridge Wharf (Sopwith Way). PCM claim that I should have registered a parking session for staying in this area. When I appealed the decision, they rejected my appeal as they say I was present for more than 15 minutes (I was there for exactly 18 minutes). I am a private hire driver and was dropping off a customer and then waiting to pick up another customer at the time. Given that I did not leave my car during this time, I do not think a parking session needed to be set up. I want to hear if any of you have any similar experiences and if you have any advice regarding trying to appeal such as decision to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS).

I have attached the relevant correspondence I have received from PCM for your reference.

Thank you in advance for your support.

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Re: ANPR fine issued by Parking Control Management UK (PCM)
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In your initial appeal, did you identify as the driver? Does PCMUK now know the identity of the driver?

Whilst they claim to have issued the NtK under PoFA 2012, the notice is not technically compliant and only the driver can be held liable. They cannot rely on PoFA to transfer liability to the keeper. Of course, that is a moot point if you revealed the identify of who was driving in your initial appeal.

Can you show any pictures of the signs at the location?

I notice that the location is next to a railway and it is a "wharf". Is the location covered by Byelaws? If so, it is not "relevant land" for the purposes of PoFA.
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You said you’d attached the relevant correspondence but actually you omitted the most important piece of correspondence. We need to see exactly what you wrote in your appeal, although it does look as through you told them you were the driver.

Also, unless the PCN is blank on the back (which would be unusual) please show us the back.
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Hello,

Thank you for your responses. For your information, this is what I wrote in my appeal letter:

Please accept this letter as formal representations against the above PCN on the grounds shown below:
1. No parking was made as I did not leave the car.
2. I am a private hire driver with a PCO license.
3. The vehicle is a private hire vehicle.
4. I was dropping off a customer at the end of Sopwith Way when the alleged offence took place.
5. I had to pick up another customer from the same location within minutes. I was waiting for this customer at this location. 6. I direct you to case number Commercial Plant Services Ltd & others v Transport for London (2230060716, 25 May 2023). In that case the panel of adjudicators held that there was no authority to issue a PCN to a vehicle based on CCTV evidence and accordingly any such PCN was unenforceable.
7. In any case I put you to strict proof that an approved device was used in issuing the PCN.
8. The appeal headings in the PCN do not reflect the above statutory requirements. For ease of reference, I have reference, numbered the appeal points in the order in which the appear on the PCN.
9. The contravention did not occur.
• The act say - 4 (a) “the alleged contravention did not occur”;
• Surprisingly the word “alleged” is missing. This is misleading as the contravention has not been proved.
• I submit this is a procedural impropriety
10. The traffic order was invalid.
• The regulations state “4(g) the order which is alleged to have been contravened in relation to the vehicle concerned, except where it is an order to which Part 6 of Schedule 9 to the RTRA 1984 applies, is invalid;”
• The appeal point fails to show an reference to “except where it is an order to which Part 6 of Schedule 9 to the RTRA 1984 applies”.
• Without this reference to Part 6 of Schedule 9 to the RTRA 1984 how can a motorist even begin to understand what order he can challenge.
• I submit this is a procedural impropriety

Each of the above errors and omissions constitutes a procedural
impropriety. Even if I am not correct that each error or omission is a procedural impropriety, the errors and omissions taken as a totality means that the PCN is not substantially compliant.
In the circumstances, please cancel the PCN.

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That appeal is totally wrong. You identified yourself as the driver. It is not a Penalty Charge Notice. It is a Parking Charge Notice. Big difference.

You have not been accused of committing any offence. This is a civil law matter. You have been issued with a speculative invoice for an alleged breach of contract by an unregulated private parking company. You have not contravened anything.

However, by identifying yourself as the driver, you have thrown away the best chance you had of getting this cancelled. What we need to see is the signage at the location. We need to see the prominence and location of any signs and the actual wording on them. If this occurred after dark, take some photos of the general area in similar lighting conditions, without flash, to show if they are even noticeable or evident. The more illegible, the better for your case.

As this is an IPC member, appealing to the kangaroo court that is the IPA is not worth while. Have you tried Plan A? Do you know who the landowner is? Is it the location that you either dropped off or picked up your passenger? If so, contact them and ask them to have this cancelled. You may want to remind them that it is possible that the location will be blacklisted by taxis and delivery people if they are likely to be subjected to speculative invoices from ex-clampers for doing their jobs at this location.

For now, besides the above Plan A, you will have to weather the storm of useless debt collector letters and wait and see if/when they issue a Letter of Claim/Actual claim. If they do, then come back and show us the LoC/claim and a suitable defence will be suggested.
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