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Hi everyone, I am seeking advice on an old PCN that I disputed when it was first issued almost three years ago and has now resurfaced. I am now being chased by a legal company representing UKCPS who have sent a Letter of Claim.

I have posted the notice to keeper and a copy of the sign displayed at the location, Brewery Wharf, Leeds.

The background is this. On the date in question, the driver entered the area at Brewery Wharf and stopped the vehicle and got out in order to read the sign, as the sign was fixed to a building wall and it was not possible to read without entering the area.

Having noted the requirement for a permit the driver went to the apartment block to make enquiries about how to obtain a permit, but was not able to find out, so they returned to the vehicle and drove off. The car was stopped for 6 minutes whilst the driver made enquiries.

The Keeper appealed to UKCPS explaining the situation above and cited the following grounds:

• The IPC (International Parking Community) Code of Practice, section clearly states in section 13, that motorists must be allowed a Consideration Period. Namely: “13 Consideration and Grace Periods on Private Land, 13.1 Motorists must be allowed a sufficient Consideration Period so they may make an informed decision as to whether or not to enter or remain on the Private Land.

• The Consideration Period must apply and in this case the car was stopped for 6 minutes and no parking event actually took place. You have not provided any proof to the contrary.

• Your Notice to Keeper is not in compliance with the strict requirements of the Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Section 9 (2) (a) , which requires that the Notice To Keeper must specify "the period of parking to which the notice relates". Your Notice To Keeper does not state a period of parking, it simply gives a date of 7 July and a single time of 6pm, and therefore is non-compliant and cannot be used to transfer liability from the driver to me as the registered keeper.

UKCPS rejected the appeal and said:

“Thank you for your appeal received on 20/07/2022 regarding the above detailed Parking Charge Notice (PCN). We have reviewed the case and considered the comments that you have made. This appeal has been considered in conjunction with the evidence gathered and our records show that the PCN was correctly issued as your vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms and Conditions of Parking.

The location where the vehicle was parked is private land where parking is provided only for the use of vehicles displaying a valid permit. No parking or waiting is permitted at any time for vehicles when not displaying a valid permit. Prior to leaving the vehicle it is the responsibility of the driver to ensure that their permit is clearly on display. By parking the vehicle whilst not displaying a valid permit the driver contractually agrees to pay a parking charge.”

Thank you in advance for any advice.

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Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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I wouldn't worry about it. It will never reach a hearing. Which bulk litigator has sent the Letter of Claim (LoC). Please show that LoC.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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Thank you for your feedback b789. I have attached the Letter of Claim, which was sent by Moorside Legal, Bradford.

I read in another post that a judge upheld an appeal (Brennan vs Premier Parking) reaffirming that a NTK must state an actual period of time parked and it is not sufficient merely to state a time of issue of the NTK, per Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Section 9 (2) (a) , which requires that the Notice To Keeper must specify "the period of parking to which the notice relates"

This seems to apply in my case also as the NTK only states a time of issue, so I'm confident now to respond to Moorside Legal and assert that the claim has no standing due to the non-compliant NTK.

Is there anything else you'd suggest I include as grounds for invalidating the claim ?

Thanks !

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Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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You are correct that the NtK is not PoFA compliant because it does not state a period of parking. However, you are not stating your case here.

The response to the LoC is stating that the claimant and their incompetent legal representative have not complied with the Pre Action Protocol for Debt Claims (PAPDC). You can guarantee that when the claim is issued by whichever legal wannabe trainee at Moorside is assigned the case, it will not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a), which means that it really doesn’t matter at this stage, what the status of the PCN is.

Don’t try to overthink this. In the incredibly remote possibility that this ever proceeds as far as a Witness Statement (WS) from the claimant, you will be able to refer to the Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions (2023) [H6DP632H] case. You will also be able to rely on the other established, persuasive case law of Civil Enforcememt Ltd v Ming Tak Chan (2023) [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande (2024) [K0DP5J30].

For now, just concentrate on the response to the LoC.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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Ok, understood and thanks. I picked up a copy of your recommended response to LoC from the post  "Re: Private parking fine from 2020, trace debt recovery letter" . Can I use that text once I edit it to cite PoFA Section 9 (2) (a) as the reason for non-compliance of the NtK ?


Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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This is the response I plan to use (taken from the post "Re: Private parking fine from 2020, trace debt recovery letter": citing PoFA Section 9 (2) (a). Is this ok ?

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim dated [  ], contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I am not obliged to identify the driver and I decline to do so. As there is no legal presumption that the keeper of a vehicle was its driver on any particular occasion, your client cannot pursue me as driver as per VCS v Edward (2023) [H0KF6C9C].

If your client is seeking to rely on Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) in order to hold me liable as keeper, they are unable to do so. The Notice to Keeper (NtK) failed to comply with Schedule 4 of PoFA Section 9 (2) (a) and therefore as such, no PoFA-compliant NtK was served. Even if your client were to issue or re-send a copy now, it would be well outside the statutory period and would not remedy the defect. Your client is therefore unable to rely on PoFA to establish keeper liability.

As your client cannot pursue me as driver or keeper, it would be an abuse of the court’s process for your client to issue a claim against me and I will defend any such claim vigorously and seek costs in relation to your client’s unreasonable and vexatious conduct under Part 27.14(2)(g)

Because your letter lacks specificity and breaches the requirements of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (paragraphs 3.1(a)-(d), 5.1 and 5.2) as well as the Practice Direction - Pre-Action Conduct (paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c)), you must treat this letter as a formal request for all of the documents/information that the protocol now requires your client to provide. Your client must not issue proceedings without complying with that protocol.

As solicitors you must surely be familiar with the requirements of both the Practice Direction and the Pre-Action Protocol for debt claims and your client, as a serial litigator of debt claims, should likewise be aware of them. As you (and your client) must know, the Practice Direction and Protocol bind all potential litigants, whatever the size or type of the claim. Its express purpose is to assist parties in understanding the claim and their respective positions in relation to it, to enable parties to take stock of their positions and to negotiate a settlement, or at least narrow the issues, without incurring the costs of court proceedings or using up valuable court time. It is embarrassing that a firm of Solicitors are sending a consumer a vague and un-evidenced 'Letter of Claim' in complete ignorance of the pre-existing Practice Direction and the Pre-Action Protocol.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1.   An explanation of the cause of action
2.   whether they are pursuing me as driver or keeper
3.   whether they are relying on the provisions of Schedule 4 of POFA 2012
4.   what the details of the claim are; for how long it is claimed the vehicle was parked, how the monies being claimed arose and have been calculated
5.   Is the claim for a contractual breach? If so, what is the date of the agreement? The names of the parties to it and provide to me a copy of that contract.
6.   If the claim is for a contractual breach, photographs showing the vehicle was parked in contravention of said contract.
7.   Is the claim for trespass? If so, provide details.
8.   Provide me a copy of the contract with the landowner under which they assert authority to bring the claim, as required by the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP).
9.   a plan showing where any signs were displayed
10.   Photographs of the signs displayed (size of sign, size of font, height at which displayed) at the time of any alleged contravention.
11.   Provide details of the original charge, and detail any interest and administrative or other charges added
12.   Am I to understand that the additional £70 over and above the amount of £100  stated in the Notice to Keeper represents what is dressed up as a 'Debt Recovery' fee, and if so, is this nett or inclusive of VAT? If the latter, would you kindly explain why I am being asked to pay the operator’s VAT?
13.   With regard to the principal alleged PCN sum: Is this damages, or will it be pleaded as consideration for parking?

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]

Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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That should do. It isn't going to stop the eejits at Moorside Legal from issuing the claim, but it does put them on notice and their failure to comply with the PAPDC means that you can also file a complaint against them with the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA).
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCN at Brewery Wharf Leeds
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That should do. It isn't going to stop the eejits at Moorside Legal from issuing the claim, but it does put them on notice and their failure to comply with the PAPDC means that you can also file a complaint against them with the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA).

Grand ! Thanks very much