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Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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NtK received on the 3/5/25


The incident occurred at Shop Stop, Junction approach, Clapham Junction London SW11 1RU.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/sA7S1ZXgPUtH2p7KA
In the street view images you will see a Shop Stop sign, this is a location for delivering parcels.
To get to Shop Stop you must enter the ANPR parking area.
There is no signin or option to enter a VRN when delivering, only to pay for parking.

The driver was delivering parcels at the Shop Stop.
The signage does state that Shop Stop deliveries are allowed for 20 minuites.
The driver does have evidence of the delivery for Shop Stop.
The driver has delivered at this location previously without a NtK being sent.

This should be a appeal which is accepted, but as these companies try to extort money help would be appreciated on the correct wording and procedure so that the keeper is not implicated.

Below is the appeal I have drafted.
Dear Park Maven Team,
I am writing to formally appeal the parking charge issued in relation to the vehicle at Shop Stop Clapham Junction.
At the time of the alleged contravention, the driver was at the location for legitimate business purposes, delivering several parcels at Shop Stop. This area is known to allow for delivery access, and the visit was in accordance with this usage.
Access for delivery is 20 minutes, delivery on this occasion only took 13 minutes.
Please find attached a delivery schedule as supporting evidence of the visit.
In light of the above, I kindly request that this parking charge be cancelled.
Thank you for your consideration

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Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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Do not send that appeal. Show us the back of the Notice to Keeper (NtK). You are correct to refer to the driver in the third person.

The front of the NtK fails POFA and the PPSCoP. The back will also contain further evidence of PoFA failures.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
« Reply #2 on: »
I've uploaded the back of the NtK

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
« Reply #3 on: »
The GSV photos of the signage are from 2020 and it was GroupNexus back then that operated the car park. What do the current ParkMaven signs say about deliveries?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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I assumed the signage was current.
I'll go back and look at the ParkMaven signs.

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
« Reply #5 on: »
Take some photos of the signs and the general layout of the car park and the signage within it.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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I've uploaded a picture of the Parkmaven signs.
The Parkmaven signs do not mention anything about delivering to the Shop Stop.
Very confusing as the Group Nexus sign clearly allows Shop Stop deliveries, but the only access to Shop Stop is via the Parkmaven controlled area.

This is not an straight forward appeal as I first thought..

Advice appreciated

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Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
« Reply #7 on: »
Hello...
I wasn't sure when you would be able to give further advice on this, and was unsure as to when I needed to appeal.
I sent this appeal today.
Hope I haven't messed up...?

I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012 and the PPSCoP , you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPC have no hope at POPLA and the PPSCoP, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

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UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

UKPC have no hope at POPLA and the PPSCoP, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Did you change “UKPC” to “ParkMaven”?

Do you have evidence that you were delivering to the location?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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Dam it....I copied and pasted from another post, so didn't change UKPC
Yes i do have evidence that I was delivering..

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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You’ll get a second chance to appeal to POPLA when they reject it. I doubt POPLA will be much use though.

This will likely go to a claim where you will be able to defend using Jopson v Homeguard.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Hello.
Is it worth sending Park Maven additional information for my appeal, offering working on site as a defence? I do have evidence of working on site.

Also if this is likely go to a claim what do you think are the odds of winning?
Could you let me know what I can expect if I follow your advice and don't shoot myself in the foot again.


Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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It doesn’t matter what appeal you send to the operator... they will reject it.

POPLA is not likely to consider the fact that you were working on site as that is a mitigation factor which they will not consider. They will only look at the facts as they relate to the law or the PPSCoP.

There are no “odds of wining”. They will push as far as they can in the hope you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who will pay up out of ignorance and fear.

A defended claim is highly likely to be struck out or discontinued. The odds of it actually going as far as a hearing,  eye low.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parkmaven Clapham Junction NtK received whilst working
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Reply from Parkmaven re appeal
Advice please.

Site: Shop Stop Clapham Junction
Issue date: 29/04/2025
Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge. You mentioned that you were not the driver at the time of
the Parking Charge.
As you are the registered keeper, you remain liable for this charge under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. In order to
transfer liability to the driver, we require more details.
Please reply to this email with the following:
(a) The full name and serviceable address of the driver.
We have now placed your parking charge on hold until 05/06/2025 to allow you time to respond. If we do not receive this
information by this date, we will have to reject your appeal. Kindly submit your documents to [support@parkmaven.com]
for faster correspondence.
Yours sincerely,
Appeals Department
ParkMaven Ltd

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You can ignore or respond with:

Quote
Thank you for your reply. Your statement that I "remain liable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012" is incorrect. Your Notice to Keeper fails to comply with Schedule 4 of PoFA in several material respects:

• No valid invitation to the keeper to pay, contrary to paragraph 9(2)(e)(i)
• Payment deadline set two days early, contrary to paragraph 9(2)(f)

These statutory breaches mean that you cannot rely on PoFA to hold the keeper liable. As such, I am under no obligation to name the driver, and will not be doing so.

If you reject this appeal, I require a POPLA code so I may escalate the matter.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain