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Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #15 on: »
You appeal as the Keeper as long as the unknown drivers identity is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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Re: Parking Charge Notice (PCN) No. [PCN no.]
Vehicle Registration No: [VRM]
Issue Date: [issue date]


I am appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle, and I would like to emphasise that I was not the driver on the date of the alleged contravention. I am under no legal obligation to provide the driver’s details, and I decline to do so.

ParkingEye (PE) has failed to comply with the strict requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012, which are necessary to hold the keeper liable. I outline the following points of non-compliance:

1. Failure to comply with PoFA paragraph 2(2):

PoFA paragraph 2(2) states that 'adequate notice' of the parking charge must be given to drivers. In this case, no adequate notice was provided. There were no visible signs at the entrance, at the location where the vehicle was parked, or along the route to the entrance of the premises, communicating the parking terms and conditions.

2. Failure to comply with PoFA paragraph 2(3):

Paragraph 2(3) further clarifies that 'adequate notice' means signs must clearly specify the parking charge and be positioned in such a way that the charge is brought to the attention of drivers. In this case, PE did not display sufficient signage to meet this requirement.

3. Failure to comply with PoFA paragraph 9(2)(c):

PoFA paragraph 9(2)(c) requires that the Notice to Keeper describe how the parking charge arose and how the requirement to pay was brought to the attention of the driver. Given that PE has failed to provide adequate notice as defined in paragraphs 2(2) and 2(3), the Notice to Keeper does not comply with this requirement. PE’s partial or substantial compliance with PoFA is insufficient to establish keeper liability, as full compliance with all PoFA requirements is mandatory.

4. Failure to comply with POFA paragraph 9)2)(e)(i):
This paragraph mandates that for a parking operator to hold the vehicle's registered keeper liable for a parking charge, the Notice to Keeper (NtK) must include:

• An "Invitation to Pay": The notice must explicitly invite the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charges.

• Exact Wording: The wording must clearly convey this invitation and mere implication or indirect suggestions are insufficient. The act requires strict compliance, meaning that any failure to fully incorporate this invitation renders the notice non-compliant with the requirements of PoFA 2012.

In addition, should PE reject my appeal, I will expect you to provide the following evidence to POPLA:

• A detailed layout of the car park showing the location of all signage.

• Proof of the exact location where the vehicle was parked, and how this relates to any signage.

• Evidence that the signage used to display the parking terms and conditions is fully compliant with the British Parking Association (BPA) and Independent Parking Committee  (IPC) Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP).

PE will be put to strict proof of the vehicle’s parking location and the relationship of that location to any signs passed between the parking space and the premises entrance.

In light of these clear breaches of PoFA and the inadequate signage, I request that the Parking Charge Notice be cancelled.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #16 on: »
Thank you so much for this, I have filed the appeal on their website with the information above. No doubt I will update when I have it, I will also share a pic of the signage when I have it.

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #17 on: »
So the gym responded and suggested that the driver log into his account on their app where they can find the date, entrance/exit time and use that as part of the appeal.

Is it worth sharing this as well with  Parkingeye, considering the previous appeal has already been filed?

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #18 on: »
Hi, I got the following email from Parking eye, can you  please advise what to do next:

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Reference: Parking Charge Notice - xxxxxxxxx

Dear Sir / Madam,

Thank you for your correspondence in relation to the Parking Charge incurred on 13
December 2024 at 23:26, at Centurion Point - Chester car park.

We are writing to advise you that your recent appeal has been referred for further
information.

You have stated that you were not the driver of the vehicle at the date and time of the
breach of the terms and conditions of the car park, but you have not indicated who was.
You have already been notified that under section 9(2)(b) of schedule 4 of the Protection
of Freedoms Act 2012 that the driver of the motor vehicle is required to pay this parking
charge in full. As we do not know the driver’s name or current postal address, if you were
not the driver at the time, you should tell us the full name and the current postal
address of the driver.

You are warned that if, after 29 days from the Date of Issue, the parking charge has not
been paid in full and we do not know both the name and current address of the driver, we
have the right to recover any unpaid part of the parking charge from you, the registered
keeper. This warning is given to you under paragraph 9(2)(f) of schedule 4 of the
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and is subject to our complying with the applicable
conditions under schedule 4 of that Act.

Please note, if you have made or wish to make an appeal on behalf of the driver, and you
do not provide the full name and current postal address of the driver, Parkingeye will be
obliged to deal with the representations made in your name.

Parkingeye have placed this charge on hold for 28 days to enable you to provide the
evidence requested. If this information is not provided within 28 days, the appeal may well
be rejected and a POPLA code provided.Parkingeye Limited, 40 Eaton Avenue Buckshaw Village, Chorley, PR7 7NA, Registered in England, Registration No. 5134454

Alternatively, payment can be made by telephoning our offices on 0330 555 4444 or by
visiting www.parkingeye.co.uk or by posting a cheque or postal order to ParkingEye Ltd,
PO Box 117, Blyth, NE24 9EJ.
Yours faithfully,

Parkingeye Team
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Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #19 on: »
You could either ignore it and wait for the POPLA code or you can respond with the following:

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Subject: Response to PCN No. [Insert PCN Number]

Dear ParkingEye,

I acknowledge receipt of your correspondence dated [insert date] in response to my appeal regarding PCN No. [PCN Number]. I write to reiterate my position as the registered keeper of the vehicle and to address your request for further information.

As I have already stated, I was not the driver of the vehicle at the time of the alleged parking contravention. I am under no legal obligation to provide the driver's identity, and I decline to do so.

Your response references paragraph 9(2)(b) and paragraph 9(2)(f) of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA). However, I must stress that for you to rely on these provisions to claim keeper liability, your Notice to Keeper (NtK) must fully comply with all other requirements of PoFA, which I outlined in my appeal.

Specifically:

1. Failure to Include an Invitation to Pay (Paragraph 9(2)(e)(i)):

Your NtK fails to include a clear and unambiguous invitation for the keeper to pay the parking charge, as required under PoFA. This is a critical omission that renders the NtK non-compliant.

2. Inadequate Signage (Paragraphs 2(2) and 2(3)):

As noted in my initial appeal, your signage does not meet the standards required under PoFA, BPA, or IPC codes of practice. Without sufficient signage to communicate terms to the driver, your claim against the registered keeper is invalid.

3. Failure to Explain How the Parking Charge Was Brought to the Driver’s Attention (Paragraph 9(2)(c)):

Your NtK does not provide sufficient detail about how the terms and conditions of parking were made clear to the driver, particularly given the issues with signage.

4. Strict PoFA Compliance is Mandatory:

PoFA requires strict compliance with all statutory requirements. Partial compliance is insufficient to establish liability on the part of the registered keeper.

Given the above points, I maintain that ParkingEye has no lawful basis to pursue the registered keeper for payment of this Parking Charge Notice.

I also remind you of your obligation to either accept my appeal or provide me with a POPLA verification code to escalate this matter to independent adjudication. Your letter has not addressed the substantive points I raised regarding your failure to comply with PoFA, and I expect a substantive response within the 28-day hold period you referenced.

Should you fail to cancel this PCN or issue a POPLA code, I will escalate this matter further, including complaints to the British Parking Association (BPA) and other relevant authorities.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
Registered Keeper
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #20 on: »
Thanks for the prompt response, in your expert opinion which is the best option? Ignore or respond?

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #21 on: »
Personally, I prefer to engage with them and force them to respond to the points raised. All the more chance they will have to spend time and effort dealing with you.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #22 on: »
Thanks, I will respond to them, interestingly they sent the email from a no-reply email address and on their website they don't share an email address, clearly trying to make it difficult as possible.

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #23 on: »
Email the letter as a PDF attachment to info@parkingeye.co.uk and also CC in yourself.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #24 on: »
Thanks once again, just sent it as a pdf to that email address.

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #25 on: »
It's been 28 calendar days since I emailed the PDF attachment to ParkingEye, they haven't responded, should I just sit tight?

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #26 on: »
Email them and remind them of their obligation under the PPSCoP to respond to complaints within 28 days.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #27 on: »
After sending the email to info@parkingeye.co.uk, I got the following postmaster error, I did not get this last time on 08th Jan'25:

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info@parkingeye.co.uk only accepts messages from people in its organization or on its allowed senders list, and your email address isn't on the list.
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Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #28 on: »
So, submit your response using their inline complaints form where you can also upload PDF attachments etc:

https://www.parkingeye.co.uk/motorist/complaints/form/
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Parking Charge Notice - Centurion Point Chester
« Reply #29 on: »
Thanks for that, I was looking for another email address but the link you supplied was helpful, though their auto-response advises a response within 28days.