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Private Parking Ticket Fine Ignored and Followed Up By Debt Collection Letters

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#1
Hello, I was fined by Alliance Parking UK Ltd all the way back in 2021 and decided to ignore it. 3.5 years later I have had 2 debt collection letters through my door from Trace Debt Recovery which I have also chosen to ignore.

This was at the Parc Tawe Retail Park in Swansea and I had overstayed the free period you were allowed.

Now I do not fancy a trip to court if this escalates massively and I am extremely naive to this entire process.

What should I do about this? Do I triple down on ignoring them until they actually put in writing they are taking me to court or should I just pay the fine?

I have attached the second debt recovery letter I have received. I do not have immediate access to the first letter I received as I also binned that.

Thanks for your help and advice in advance!

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Last Edit: May 21, 2025, 10:52:13 pm by mcrjfn
#2
OK, it’s not a fine, it’s an invoice for payment which can be pursued under contract law.

You are right to ignore Trace.

Wait for a formal Letter of Claim and come back here when you do, this may lead to a process involving court, threats of “CCJs” which are misleading, and so on. You will get help, advice & guidance here if this happens.

In the meantime, send a Subject Access Request to Alliance for all that they hold on you, which will include the original PCN. Its contents may be important to any defence.
Last Edit: May 21, 2025, 09:16:07 pm by jfollows
#4
For example, see https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-do-i-make-a-subject-access-request-sar-a6axO2u2RKof

To the data protection officer, normally

You will also have to supply something to verify your identity, which they will request from you when you contact them.
Last Edit: May 21, 2025, 09:30:22 pm by jfollows
#5
Don't send an SAR. You do not want any knowledge of this if/when they do issue a claim. Depending on which incompetent bulk litigation company the prefer to use, you can guarantee that they will screw up there Particulars of Claim (PoC) and you will have a strong defence if they cannot claim that you were in full possession of the facts because they responded to a SAR.

As pointed out, this is not a "fine" and you are under no legal obligation to lust pay, what is in reality, a speculative invoice from an unregulated pivot parking company for an alleged breach of contract by the unknown driver.

A court claim is nothing to be fearful of. They operate in the hope that once they start litigation that you are low hanging-fruit on the gullible tree and will capitulate pay up out of ignorance and fear.

The odds of any claim ever reaching an actual hearing are less than 1% with the most likely outcome being a strike out or a discontinuation, if you follow out advice.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain