Author Topic: Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper  (Read 769 times)

0 Members and 87 Guests are viewing this topic.

Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper
« on: »
Received the Notice (issue date 01/08/20250 which states that "No valid payment or validation made to cover the duration of the stay".

Does not include the words "Invitation to pay", Requires discounted payment by 18/07/2025.

Advice gratefully received - should I ignore or write a letter of appeal?

Is there a template I can use?

Thank you in advance.

[ Guests cannot view attachments ]

Share on Bluesky Share on Facebook


Re: Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper
« Reply #1 on: »
have you made any response to ECP at all?
if so show us.
Quote from: andy_foster
Mick, you are a very, very bad man

Re: Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper
« Reply #2 on: »
Thanks for the reply. Have not made any response yet. Deadline is looming. Wondering should I ignore or email a response.

Re: Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper
« Reply #3 on: »
Was the driver a Sainburys's customer?  That should be first port of call.  You can appeal on the not POFA compliant (there are plenty of examples on here) - PE will reject it of course.  You might convince POPLA, but the 'invitation' is not a sure win.  After that it's wait for, and then defend, the claim when it comes.

Re: Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper
« Reply #4 on: »
You start with Plan A, which is get Sainsbury's to get it cancelled. Plan be is you appeal to ECP and when that is rejected, you do Plan C which is appeal to POPLA. ECP PCNs are unlikely to be won at POPLA so you move on to Plan C which is to ignore all the useless debt recovery letters. Debt collectors are powerless to do anything except to try and persuade the know-haning fruit on the gullible tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear.

Plan C with ECP is a 100% guaranteed win when they  get DCB Legal to issue a claim against the Keeper. With the advice from here, any claim issued by DCB Legal for ECP will eventually be discontinued if not struck out first. It just takes many months to get there.

Here is the wording you use for your initial appeal, which is ONLY done as the Keeper. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

Quote
I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. ECP has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. ECP have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Euro Car Parks Notice to Keeper
« Reply #5 on: »
Thank you for the reply, very helpful.l