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Have received this letter (I have never received a court letter) and I am panicking as I had ignored the previous letters as believed was a scam. I have always paid for parking etc when needed.

When checking my parking receipt, I notice that I entered my number plate wrong by one digit only. I used an app which tracks everything.

How can I rectify this please and avoid the default?

Do I call Elms Legal and explain this was a typo error or has the ship sailed on that as the parking incident happened 6 months ago

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Re: Notice of judgement in default - elms legal
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Are you prepared to pay it immediately in order to prevent the default judgment going on the open register and destroying your credit record for a few years? You appear to be in time to do this.

Ignoring everything on the grounds of it likely being a scam was unhelpful. However do you recall receiving a claim form from the county court?


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The sensible step is to pay it immediately to avoid a CCJ, this does NOT prevent you then contesting it via a set aside application.

'Ignore' is a bad policy, especially if it means yo failing to engage with the court process at Letter of claim or Claim form stages.
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!

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Thanks guys. I’ve not had a court letter or definitely would responded to that.

I’ll get it paid asap then attempt to claim back

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How do I appeal once the payment is made please? Shall I explain it was a typo before making payment?

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You don't 'appeal', you apply for a set aside as I said, using form N244
Advice here https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/borrowing-money/county-court-judgments-and-your-credit-rating/#:~:text=You%20can%20ask%20the%20court%20to%20set%20aside%20the%20CCJ,take%20up%20to%204%20weeks.

If you (as is sensible) kept all the paperwork referring to the alleged debt you can check to see EXACTLY what you did receive.
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!

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The set aside application will cost and may well not be recoverable. It may well not be granted. You still have to recover from the other side the payment you made (hopefully they just pay it when you ask them). The other side then decide whether to attempt to enforce the alleged debt.

Your only defence appears to be that you made a keying error. That's not strong. There may be other elements based on signage etc.



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Great.

So to clarify, I should pay in full, then complete set aside form?

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When you say you “ignored” previous letters, are you sure that you did not receive either a Letter of Claim or an N1SDT Claim form from the CNBC?

It is unusual to receive all PCN and debt demand correspondence but then not to receive both an LoC and a Claim form. You need to call the CNBC and get them to email you the details of the claim to include the claim number, the address it was sent to and the Particulars of Claim.

If the claim was issued correctly to your current address, you have very little chance to recover the funds that you are now intending to pay to prevent the CCJ from remaining on your credit record. Is there any possibility that the PPC hold two addresses for you? Did you ever move and fail to update the address on your V5C logbook?

You do not “just fill out a form” to file for a set aside. If the claim was sent to your correct address, how are you going to evidence that you never received it?. If you can evidence that it was either sent to an old or the wrong address, then you have grounds for a mandatory set aside under CPR13.2.

If you can convince a judge that you never received a claim form even though it was sent to the correct address, a set aside under CPR13.2 would be possible but good luck in proving you never received it. The only other option would be to request a set aside under CPR13.3 which is discretionary. For example, if you believe you had a good chance of successfully defending the claim.

It will cost £303 to apply for a set aside unless you could convince the claimant to agree to an uncontested one which would cost only £119, assuming they can be bothered to assist you once they’ve received the claim money from you.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2024, 09:57:40 am by b789 »
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You need to call the CNBC and get them to email you the details of the claim to include the claim number, the address it was sent to and the Particulars of Claim.

I guess an incorrect address could have been used by the claimant.

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The first thing to do is call the CNBC and be prepared to wait, possibly for hours, to get the information as advised. Have the claim number to hand.

Make sure you say on the phone until you’ve received the email from them with the Particulars of Claim and the address it was sent to.

If you can call them at 08:30 you should have less waiting time than later in the day.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain