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Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« on: August 25, 2024, 06:10:37 pm »
*Posting again with Imgur link and further details*

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Hello FTLA,

Received Horizon notice for failing to pay for parking.
This is at a hotel car park. Guests of hotel.
Horizon's evidence shown of entering the car park and leaving the car park hours later.
However, the car entered the car park and immediately left. The car park only has approximately 20 spaces.Car arrived at 1:34 and left at 1:34.
Parked on the council owned street that night. This was free parking. We didn't take pictures or have evidence of parking there.
Picture 2 on the notice shows the car re-entering the car park the next morning, not leaving as the notice says. This was paid for and sent as part of evidence.

How do we get Horizon to understand that they've captured two separate sessions? Did not park at 1am.

1. Entered car park, no spaces available. Immediately left.
2. Entered car park, parked and paid. Have payment confirmation.

Horizon have rejected initial appeal. Their response is on the imgur link. As requested in my previous link unfortunately I didn't save my initial appeal, so I am not sure if I identified the driver. Travelodge doesn't have a freephone number or email address for me to contact.
Hotel location here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Uv5H7BjzqZR18Cn77 and here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/duP6tVFcYLhNA32h7

Would like to know how to prepare my POPLA appeal. Also, if anyone has an email address for Travelodge that would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2024, 09:39:00 pm »
What you’ve shown us is not an appeal rejection but a request for more information about your stay at the hotel. When the appeal is rejected, you will receive a POPLA code.

The keeper is a victim of what is known as a “double dip” where the second and third images are missing. This should be complained about as they have obviously not carried out the required manual quality control check of the ANPR images.

By failing to carry out the required manual checks for the “orphan images” they have breached their AOS Code of Practice (CoP) which therefore invalidates their KADOE contract and they have obtained the keepers data unlawfully. This breach of the keepers GDPR should be highlighted and a claim for compensation under the Data Protection Act 2018 is fully justified.

Whilst the NtK does not fully comply with all the requirements of PoFA, which means that the keeper cannot be liable for the charge, if the keeper has identified the driver, that useful protection is out th pe window.

The keeper should immediately complain to Horizon, not appeal, and complain that the have breached their AOS CoP, namely section 21.5a, by having failed to perform the manual quality control checks on their ANPR images as this is clearly a case of “double dipping” and they should search for the “orphan images” which will show that the driver did not breach any contractual terms.

By having breached their own ATA CoP, they have also breached their KADOE contract and obtained the keepers data unlawfully. By breaching the keepers GDPR, they have caused unnecessary stress and anxiety and the keeper is entitled to compensation under the data Protection Act 2018.

Let them know that you expect compensation for their GDPR breach and should they fail to make an offer, you are prepared to make a claim against them.

Just to give you an idea about this, have a read:

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Article 12 of the UK GDPR legally requires data controllers to store and process personal data accurately: clearly, any data controller issuing an invoice to you because it has wrongly recorded that you parked in breach of the alleged contract between you and the landowner (or, as in this case, an agent of the landowner) is processing your personal data unlawfully.

The precedents for claiming damages and compensation for such unlawful processing are the decisions of the Court of Appeal in Zeta Jones & Douglas v Hello! Magazine [2003] EWHC 786 and Halliday v Creation Consumer Finance Ltd (CCF) [2013] EWCA Civ 333, both being binding on all County Courts in England and Wales.  In the latter claim, Mr Halliday was awarded compensation of £750 at what the Court regarded was the lowest level of award, and although this was a claim under Section 13 of the Data Protection Act 1998, similar provisions - amended to take account of a decision by the EU Grand Chamber that the 1998 Act did not properly implement EU law into UK domestic legislation - replaced the old Section 13 provisions with Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018.

In short, you ought to give 21 days notice (the pre-action protocol only really requires 14 days but hey, you can be charitable!) to the data controller of your intention to seek (say) £100 nominal damages and compensation under Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018 for their unlawful processing of your personal data: you could say that you will not file your claim with the County Court if they confirm in writing that all references to this alleged debt have been deleted within (say) 14 days. Clearly mark your letter as a "Letter before County Court proceedings".

Anyone who is fairly confident can claim as a litigant-in-person in Part 27 proceedings in the County Court (commonly but wrongly described as "the Small Claims Court").  Each party is responsible for their own legal costs whether they win or lose and the claim for £100 can be issued online for a fee of £35 at moneyclaimonline.gov.uk which also gives useful advice if you want to have a look at what is involved.  Your claim will automatically be listed as being for a total of £135, i.e. the successful party gets their Court fees back.
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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2024, 10:04:48 pm »
Thank you for the advice.
I have sent in further information.
I will update this thread when they respond

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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2024, 10:43:36 pm »
I have sent in further information.
What, exactly, have you sent?

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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2024, 11:47:11 pm »
In the article I provided above, there were a few out of date and incorrect references. I have now corrected the inaccuracies and updated the article:

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Article 5(1)(d) of the UK GDPR legally requires data controllers to store and process personal data accurately. If a data controller, such as a private parking company, unlawfully obtains the keeper's data from the DVLA and issues an invoice based on inaccurate information, claiming you parked in breach of an alleged contract with the landowner (or their agent), this constitutes processing your personal data inaccurately and unlawfully under the UK GDPR.

The precedents for claiming damages and compensation for such unlawful processing of personal data can be found in cases like Halliday v Creation Consumer Finance Ltd [2013] EWCA Civ 333, where the court awarded compensation for distress caused by the inaccurate processing of personal data under the Data Protection Act 1998. Although this case was decided under the old law, similar principles apply under the UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018. Under Article 82 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018, individuals have the right to compensation if they suffer material or non-material damage because of a breach of data protection laws.

Additionally, the case of Vidal-Hall v Google Inc [2015] EWCA Civ 311 confirmed that claimants could recover compensation for distress alone under the Data Protection Act 1998, a principle now similarly recognised under the GDPR. This means that even if you have not suffered tangible financial loss, you may still be entitled to compensation for distress caused by the unlawful processing of your data.

Moreover, in Tetragon Financial Group Limited v Revenue and Customs Commissioners [2020] UKUT 0305 (TCC), the court reiterated the importance of accurate data handling by public bodies. This principle can be applied here, as the DVLA, a public body, must ensure that any data it provides to third parties, such as private parking companies, is used lawfully and accurately. If a private parking company unlawfully obtained your data from the DVLA and processed it inaccurately, you have grounds to seek compensation.

To seek compensation for the unlawful processing of your personal data, you should provide 21 days’ notice (the pre-action protocol typically requires 14 days, but a longer notice can show goodwill) to the data controller, in this case, the private parking company, of your intention to claim damages. You might claim £100 for nominal damages under Article 82 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018. This notice should clearly state that you will file a claim with the County Court if they do not confirm in writing that all references to this alleged debt have been deleted within 14 days. Be sure to mark your letter as a "Letter before County Court proceedings."

As a litigant-in-person, you can file your claim under Part 27 proceedings in the County Court (often referred to as the "Small Claims Court"). Each party is responsible for their own legal costs, regardless of the outcome, and the claim can be filed online for a fee of £35 via the Money Claim Online service (moneyclaimonline.gov.uk). The successful party can recover their court fees, making the total claim amount £135.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2024, 11:54:21 pm by b789 »
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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2024, 10:31:23 am »
Travelodge doesn't have a freephone number or email address for me to contact.
Well as a phone call won't cost you anywhere near the £60 they are presumable claiming it seems paying to call is a good investment?

Plan A (landowner cancellation) is always a good plan.
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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2024, 10:52:12 am »
020 3368 6674 is the non-087 number for Travelodge customer service. That said, writing may be better if you can find an email address.

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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2024, 11:35:06 am »
OP, just trying to be clear.

The first photo in the PCN(unreadable) shows your car going which way i.e. in or out?

According to you the second photo shows the car going in to the car park. Irrespective of everything else, if the second photo shows the car going in then it cannot represent evidence of the period the car was on site, can it.

Furthermore, the creditor's claim is that the breach occurred at the time of the second photo, which shows the car going in which means that it must have exited after the first photo and before the second, so 9.12 is rubbish evidentially.

The first question which an assessor deals with is did a breach occur and is a parking charge owing based upon the evidence? I suggest you focus on this and leave GDPR matters alone. After all, they're predicated on the evidence being faulty, so why bother with a non-core ramification when the issue at hand is to use this flaw to successfully challenge the parking charge. 

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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2024, 12:53:43 pm »
Good afternoon all,

Thank you for your help with this.

The penalty has been cancelled!

I had provided Horizon with our hotel booking and reiterated the doubled dipping point.

They provided the below response.

Thank you,

Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the above Parking Charge Notice, which we have reviewed.
 
I can confirm as a gesture of goodwill the Parking Charge Notice has now been cancelled and no further action will be taken in this matter.
 
Please be advised, Travelodge Bournemouth Seafront is a guest only car park, please ensure both payment & registration inside the hotel are made on future visits to ensure further Parking Charges are not incurred.
 
Please note further Parking Charge may not be cancelled.
 
Please note that once the Parking Charge Notice is cancelled the contact details are removed from the Parking Charge Notice and will not be retained for any purpose or shared with third parties.  We are, however, required to retain images and appeal correspondence for a period of 2 years by DVLA and the BPA and are not therefore able to delete these from our system. You can review our privacy policy at https://horizonparking.co.uk/privacy-policy/ or you can request that a copy is sent to you in the post by contacting us at the address below, if you have any queries regarding your data.
 
 
Yours sincerely,
Horizon Parking

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Re: Horizon Notice at Bournemouth Hotel - Did Not Park
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2024, 01:00:04 pm »

I can confirm as a gesture of goodwill the Parking Charge Notice has now been cancelled and no further action will be taken in this matter.

They would say that wouldn't they? They know full well that they are liable for breaching your GDPR and are hoping that you are too gullible to know otherwise and are just happy that the PCN has been cancelled.

As I stated earlier, you are perfectly within your rights to sue for damages under the Data Protection Act 2018. You should also make a complaint to the ICO but you will need to complain to Horizons DPO first. They are also stating that they will keep your data for two years. If the data was obtained unlawfully (it was), they should delete that data.
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