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Re: PCN court forms sent via gladstones
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In due course you will get details of the allocation to your local court, please post here when you do, but it will contain deadlines of when the claimant has to pay the court fee and when Witness Statements have to be filed with the court. If the former is earlier than the latter, make a note in your diary and contact the court the next day to see if the fee has been paid or not.

Re: PCN court forms sent via gladstones
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What were their answers to the questions I advised your to ask in reply #11?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: PCN court forms sent via gladstones
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Hi I received the court letter today its really made me panic. I have never been to court before. I have not received the request for the witness statement yet. Just the letter attached. Can you please advise on next steps. Thank you in advance

Its not giving me the option to attach the image on here for some reason.

Re: PCN court forms sent via gladstones
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Reply #1 above says
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To help us provide the best advice, please read the following thread carefully and provide as much of the information it asks for as you are able to: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide

As a starting point we could do with seeing:
The whole Claim Form (redact personal info and MCOL password, leave all dates and times visible)
Copies of any appeals or other correspondence you have sent to the parking company
This includes a link on how to post images.

Re: PCN court forms sent via gladstones
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Hi, today I received a letter for a court date and its really made me panic as I have never been to court before. Do you think this will go all the way? Will I have anything to pay now. Any help will be greatly appreciated

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Link with the photo

https://ibb.co/W9YTQPY

Re: PCN court forms sent via gladstones
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Hi,

Please can you help me and let me know if I stand a chance with this

Yesterday I received the witness statement by gladstones solicitors please see link where I have uploaded this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pic8ZH9bdukOia5KSW0zYOQTXPBmTB-l/view?usp=drive_link

Also the defence I filed was this as instructed by your team:

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant
asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no
debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately
disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim
(PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against
the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the
PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or
clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why
the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or
contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly
where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred
and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the
parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest,
damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the
parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is
sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant
cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out
similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately
comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a), particularly where the Particulars of
Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or
explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity. The Defendant
refers specifically to the persuasive appellate cases:

- Civil Enforcement Ltd v Chan (2023), Luton County Court, HHJ
Murch, ref: E7GM9W44

- CPMS Ltd v Akande (2024), Manchester County Court, HHJ Evans,
ref: K0DP5J30

In both cases, the claim was struck out due to identical failures
to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

5. The Defendant invites the Court to strike out this claim of its
own initiative. The Defendant relies on the judicial reasoning set
out in Chan and Akande, as well as other County Court cases
involving identical failures to adequately comply with CPR 16.4.
In those cases, the court further observed that, given the modest
sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be
disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective.
Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than
permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following
Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of
claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do
not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out
the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and
conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is (or are) relied
on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons)
why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of
contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it
served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have
done pursuant to CPR PD 7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.

AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such that the court
considers it disproportionate and not in accordance with the
overriding objective to allot to this case any further share of
the court's resources by ordering further particulars of claim and
a further defence, each followed by further referrals to the judge
for case management.

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay
this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this
Court not more than 5 days after service of this order, failing
which no such application may be made.