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Help-Debt recovery letter from bailiffs re. PCNs from 2022
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Hi all,

Hoping people can help. Back in early 2022, driver of vehicle parked in former council owned gym car park in Cardiff (new gym user). Didn't enter car reg at the machine in the foyer (as not aware) on first two occasions visiting the gym, until alerted to it by staff.

In 2023, received letters from the private company that owned the carpark saying they owed parking fines for non-entering of car reg (see first picture). At the time, the driver asked staff at the gym who reassured them and said this was a common issue with new members. Driver spoke to the gym manager (in person and over the phone) who said they would instruct the company to drop the fines- nothing more happened.

Now in 2025 driver has received threatening letter from DCBL bailiffs threatening legal action if payment is not made (fine has increased to £340)- see second and third pictures. This is pretty scary stuff so would really appreciate some advice.

Thanks in advance all,

HN

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Re: Help-Debt recovery letter from bailiffs re. PCNs from 2022
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DCBL are debt collectors here, they just use the “bailiff” name to frighten you!

In other words, feel free to ignore them, they have no power, but you may get taken to court by Gemini in due course, at which point you get an opportunity to explain why you don’t need to pay.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2025, 12:20:00 pm by jfollows »

Re: Help-Debt recovery letter from bailiffs re. PCNs from 2022
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Thanks very much for your response. Obviously don't want to go to court either- and what would we say. re. why we don't have to pay? What do people typically do at this stage? Pay up/settle?

Thanks again

Re: Help-Debt recovery letter from bailiffs re. PCNs from 2022
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You will not go to court. You will receive a county court claim for debt which will be issued by DCB Legal on behalf of Gemini. This is a good thing. However, I can guarantee with 99.99% certainty that any claim, as long as it is defended, will be discontinued in due course.

If you follow the advice we provide, you will not be paying a penny to Gemini.

You can safely ignore the debt collectors. They are not a party to the contract that the driver allegedly breached. Never, ever, ever communicate or engage with a debt collector. They are powerless to do anything except to scare the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying out of ignorance and fear. Ignore them.

What you are waiting for is a Letter of Claim (LoC). Let is know when you receive it. Eventually you will receive an N1SDT Claim Form from the CNCB. Show us that when it arrives as it must be responded to and we will advise on exactly how to do that and we will provide a suitable defence.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Help-Debt recovery letter from bailiffs re. PCNs from 2022
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Thank you so much for this- really appreciate you taking the time to get back to me. Ok, will keep you posted.