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I am neither the driver nor the keeper of the vehicle.

I asked GXS

Does it matter that in the reply from GXS to my "appeal"

I intend to send a reply to GXS


OP, can we stop dancing around this pl.

If you are neither the driver nor keeper then you have no liability and you have no standing to make 'appeals'.

Whoever is liable must be kept in the loop because it's their neck on the block.



I am neither the driver nor the keeper of the vehicle.

I asked GXS

Does it matter that in the reply from GXS to my "appeal"

I intend to send a reply to GXS


OP, can we stop dancing around this pl.

If you are neither the driver nor keeper then you have no liability and you have no standing to make 'appeals'.

Whoever is liable must be kept in the loop because it's their neck on the block.


Hello.
Sorry. Not intending to dance around it.
The keeper is aware. Is it not allowed to make appeals on their behalf?

Hence one of my original questions was were this to go to court, could i go with them/represent them for this reason.

My understanding is that the OP is handling this on behalf of the keeper.  If so, as long as everything is done in the keepers name and it is the keeper who will be signing any statements of truth, there’s nothing wrong. Even if it ever got as fast as court hearing, as long as the defendant attends, the OP can represent them as a lay rep.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

My understanding is that the OP is handling this on behalf of the keeper.  If so, as long as everything is done in the keepers name and it is the keeper who will be signing any statements of truth, there’s nothing wrong. Even if it ever got as fast as court hearing, as long as the defendant attends, the OP can represent them as a lay rep.

Yes. This is the intent.

Good afternoon.

I have now received a letter before claim for this from Moorside Legal.

The date on the letter is 29/01/2025.

Advice appreciated,

many thanks.

Please show it to us.

Moorside Legal will eventually issue a claim which will be struck out at allocation stage because they are incompetent and are too intellectual malnourished to figure out how to plead their claim without breaching CPR 16.4(1)(a).
« Last Edit: February 06, 2025, 03:45:20 pm by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain


This will never make it as far as a hearing. Moorside Legal are so incompetent that they will issue the claim with defective particulars. For now, respond as follows:

Quote
Moorside Legal
Jade Building
Albion Mills
Albion Road
Greengates
BD10 9TQ

By email to: help@moorsidelegal.co.uk

[Date]

Dear Sirs,

Re: Letter of Claim dated 29th January 2025

I refer to your Letter of Claim.

I confirm that my address for service at this time is as follows, and I request that any outdated address be erased from your records to ensure compliance with data protection obligations:

[YOUR ADDRESS]

Please note that the alleged debt is disputed, and any court proceedings will be robustly defended.

I note that the sum claimed has been increased by an excessive and unjustifiable amount, which appears contrary to the principles established by the Government, who described such practices as “extorting money from motorists.” Please refrain from sending boilerplate responses or justifications regarding this issue.

Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, I require specific answers to the following questions:

1. Does the additional £70 represent what you describe as a “Debt Recovery” fee? If so, is this figure net of or inclusive of VAT? If inclusive, I trust you will explain why I, as the alleged debtor, am being asked to cover your client’s VAT liability.

2. Regarding the principal sum of the alleged Parking Charge Notice (PCN): Is this being claimed as damages for breach of contract, or will it be pleaded as consideration for a purported parking contract?

I would caution you against simply dismissing these questions with vague or boilerplate responses, as I am fully aware of the implications. By claiming that PCNs are exempt from VAT while simultaneously inflating the debt recovery element, your client – with your assistance – appears to be evading VAT obligations due to HMRC. Such mendacious conduct raises serious questions about the legality and ethics of your practices.

I strongly advise your client to cease and desist. Should this matter proceed to court, you can be assured that these issues will be brought to the court’s attention, alongside a robust defence and potentially a counterclaim for unreasonable conduct.

Yours faithfully,


[YOUR NAME]

Save as a PDF file and attach to an email addressed to help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and also CC in yourself.

Please remember, this is all being done in the name of the person it is addressed to, even if ‘you’ are doing it on their behalf.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2025, 08:29:38 am by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

understood.

Just to clarify -
I respond as the individual involved, even if i am acting upon their behalf?

or do i state "X, acting on behalf of the Y" (the keeper of the vehicle)

many thanks

No. Everything has to be done in the name of the person being chased. Who is the LoC addressed to? You or the person you are assisting?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

No. Everything has to be done in the name of the person being chased. Who is the LoC addressed to? You or the person you are assisting?

the person i am assisting

then the reply is In their name.
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Mick, you are a very, very bad man

Is it normal to have no response after i sent that as a reply?

or am i waiting for further physical letters?

There is no time limit for them to respond but they cannot issue a claim without first responding otherwise they are in breach of the PAP.

What method did you use to send your response?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Email, and i have CC'd myself.

It was simply a subject with their reference number
PDF attached

email body stating "reply as attached".

signed in the name of the person whom i am representing.
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