Author Topic: Gemini Parking Solutions PCN – Failure to Pay – Mile End Leisure Centre Car Park, London  (Read 577 times)

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Hi all,

I’m seeking advice regarding a PCN I’ve received from Gemini for an alleged failure to pay for parking at the Mile End Leisure Centre car park in London. Here’s the situation:

On the 26th of February at around 9 PM, the driver entered the car park to use the leisure centre facilities as a customer. The driver stayed for approximately 1 hour and 10 minutes. Upon entering, the driver did not notice any signage indicating that payment was required claiming visibility wasn't great at the entrance at night, and as a result, no payment was made.

As the registered keeper of the vehicle, I received a PCN letter on the 14th of March, which stated that the notice was issued on the 11th of March. I have not yet responded to the notice or contacted Gemini, as I wanted to seek advice here first.

I’ve attached photos of the PCN notice and signage at the car park entrance.

Any advice on how to proceed with an appeal would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your help!

Photos of PCN and car park entrance: https://imgur.com/a/6D1aRxy

Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/WwFz8j2BkdoKNXJNA

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Easy one to deal with… as long as the unknown drivers identity is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Gemini has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. Gemini have no hope should you try to litigate, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

However.. . As Gemini are IPC members and any initial appeal will be rejected, no matter what, on second thoughts, I suggest that rather than submit an appeal, a formal complaint which must also be considered as an appeal is going to be a better option as it will also require them to respond to the issues raised in the complaint rather than wasting time and effort on an IAS kangaroo court secondary appeal.

A formal complaint under the PPSCoP section 11.2 must be considered and treated as an appeal. Because there are notable errors in the Notice to Keeper (NtK), a formal complaint also requires them to respond to the following points:

The big black and white statement on the front of the NtK is in breach of the PPSCoP section 8.1.2(e) because the Keeper is allowed to appeal up to 28 days after “receipt” of the NtK, not 28 days after the date of “issue”.

This is also important because any breach of the PPSCoP invalidates the operators KADOE contract with the DVLA and means that they have unlawfully used your DVLA data.

In a formal complaint, you should require them to evidence the date they actually sent the NtK, not just the date it was generated or “issued”. The PPSCoP section 8.1.2(e) Note 2 states that parking operators must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

I would place money on the fact that they cannot provide this evidence, which is another breach of the PPSCoP for the DVLA to investigate and puts Gemini at risk of losing their right to access DVLA data in future.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thank you! Sent the complaint.