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Anxious Parker

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Dear Hero Member

Rather than obvious subject headed DBL ref: x or from email DBL one was emailed from Lorraine Boardman.
I had asked the form be sent unfortunately they emailed and I missed it.

Two forms were attached for completion:

DCB LEGAL FINANCIAL AND AFFORDABILITY INCOME AND EXPENDITURE STATEMENT [Am I required to disclose my financial information?]

And

REPLY FORM
YOU HAVE 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE AT THE TOP OF THE ENCLOSED LETTER TO FILL IN AND
RETURN THIS FORM. IF YOU DON’T, IT COULD RESULT IN COURT PROCEEDINGS.

The closest box to why I shouldn’t pay is:
BOX D
I dispute the debt.
Tick this box if you don’t owe the debt, for example because the debt should be paid by someone else,
because you have already paid it, or because there is a legal problem with the credit agreement.
I dispute the debt because ……………
Explain on a separate piece of paper why you dispute the debt. Give as much detail as possible and provide
copies of any supporting documents.
NOW GO TO SECTION 4.

SECTION 4: What documents are you sending with this form? What information do you need?
Complete the boxes below if you want to provide or get more information.

To arbitrator I wrote ‘Should this appeal be rejected, I am fully prepared to defend this matter in court, where I
will require Excel Parking to substantiate their claims with proper evidence of record logs
from and including 26 September 2023 through to and including 28 August 2024, showing
the VRM’s where only the 1st or 1st and 2nd characters of VRM’s are on data log, instead of
other 6 VRM’s entered after 1st character.’

I have now received a Claim Form from Civil National Business Centre totalling  £260.84 (Claim of £170, interest, court fee & legal costs)

Having failed to complete DBLs two forms have I lost the battle or is there a way I complete the Claim Form to try to get out of the total amount?

Could I attach the reply form late saying not completed previously ‘cos missed as not sent by mail and ask for copies of record logs from and including 26 September 2023 through to and including 28 August 2024, showing the VRM’s where only the 1st or 1st and 2nd characters of VRM’s are on data log, instead of other 6 VRM’s entered after 1st character?

Once again your help is greatly appreciated

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You were not obliged to fill in or even respond to DCB Legal’s forms. It was not an appeal form but a Letter of Claim (LoC) which gave you 30 days to pay or they would issue a claim, which they have now done.

Please show the N1SDT Claim Form (we do not need to see all the other paperwork that came with it and you can discard them). Redact only your personal info, the claim number and the MCOL password. Make sure all dates and times remain visible.

What is the issue date of the claim?
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Dear Hero Member

Please find Claim Form attached. Issue Date: 11 Feb 2025.

Thanks again
« Last Edit: February 15, 2025, 08:21:27 am by Anxious Parker »

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This is the only bit we need to see:



Chuck all the other forms in the bin.

With an issue date of 11th February, you have until 2nd March to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). By submitting an AoS, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 11th March to submit your defence. If you do not submit an AoS, then you have until 4pm on Monday 17th March to submit the defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both documents as PDF attachments in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Excel Parking Services Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

[Claimant]

Claimant

- and -

Excel Parking Services Ltd


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
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With an issue date of 11th February, you have until 2nd March to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). By submitting an AoS, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 11th March to submit your defence. If you do not submit an AoS, then you have until 4pm on Monday 17th March to submit the defence.
I think your second date is wrong?

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My bad... With an issue date of 11th February, you have until 4pm on Monday 3rd March to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). By submitting an AoS, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 17th March to submit your defence. If you do not submit an AoS, then you have until 4pm on Monday 3rd March to submit the defence.

(I must get myself an easier to read calendar!)
« Last Edit: February 16, 2025, 11:10:17 am by b789 »
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Thank you again for all your help.