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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN - Overstay - Orchards Shopping Centre Dartford
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Both the gym and Orchards have said they do not have the power to cancel PCNs - even though we know otherwise.
Out of interest, how did you come to know otherwise? If someone else has told you they were able to get one cancelled it would be wise to find out exactly who they spoke to if you haven't already.


Is it not the case that all landowners have the ability to waive PCNs?
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN - Overstay - Orchards Shopping Centre Dartford
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Not necessarily unilaterally, no.
The parking company may have an agreement with them allowing them to cancel X% of PCNs only.
The parking company’s contract usually is that the money for parking is passed to the land owner, with the appropriate VAT implication, but that the parking company’s contract means they can usually pursue anyone who doesn’t pay or otherwise breaks the rules, and the parking company can keep all the money it obtains this way. This is the sole or main income stream for the parking company, and they won’t want to fetter it with a right for the land owner to deprive them of it. Ultimately the land owner can terminate the contract, so the parking company will take away its equipment and leave the land owner in the position they were when they engaged them.

The industry issues something like 40,000 PCNs daily, and if only 25% of them are paid it’s a net flow of £1m/day to these companies. They want to hang on to all of this.
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Re: Euro Car Parks PCN - Overstay - Orchards Shopping Centre Dartford
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The tail often wags the dog with these contracts.

Re: Euro Car Parks PCN - Overstay - Orchards Shopping Centre Dartford
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A couple of years ago, I got a PCN for not paying at all when collecting from Argos in Sainsburys there (I wrongly assumed supermarket car park would be free, genuine first-timer mistake!). I asked security in the shopping centre for someone to discuss this with and it got rescinded by speaking to whoever was senior on-site, though I can't remember their job role. Might be worth asking around during working hours! I believe they contacted the operator to get it cancelled.

You've all missed my post on the first page! I managed to get mine cancelled by speaking to the Orchard's security office manager in person.
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