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Good morning,

I was contacted last year by Direct Collection Bailiffs regarding an unpaid parking charge from 27/04/2023. This was the first time I heard about this. I then contacted Euru Car Parks Limited to get some information on the PCN as I had not received any of the letters relating to this PCN previously.

I advised Euro Car Parks that this was likely a multi-site visit as I had no recollection of this and asked them to stop pursuing this.(See attached).

I have then received numerous letters from DCBL for debt collection and threatening all sorts of action. I was advised wrongly or rightly to ignore them.

I have now received a HM Courts & Tribunals Service letter for a sum of £286. I was looking for some advice on how to deal with this and whether it's best to just pay it or whether it's likely this will go to court? Excuse my ignorance here, not had to deal with something like this before.

It also says on the letter from the County Court you must respond to the claim before the response date on the enclosed form, however I do not see any response date. I have been away with work and the issue date on the court letter is 09/07/2025. Does anyone know what the usual response time is on this. I really don't want to end up with a CCJ as I am looking to by my first home in the next couple of years.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve




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You should still be in time to submit Acknowledgement of service, which will extend the window for submitting the defence by an additional 2 weeks.  There is a guide here, which b789 has posted a number of times: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0   b789 should then be along to advise on the defence - this looks like a DCB Legal claim so the std defence should be applicable.  However, you indicate that you may have made multiple short trips to the CO-OP but ECP have picked up first / last visits in which case a modification might be in order to highlight this.

Hi,

Thank you very much for your reply. I will give this a go. You mentioned this looks like a DCB Legal claim so the std defence should be applicable. Apologies, where can I find the STD defence?

Regards,

Steve

The normal defence is given in this thread:  https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/how-to-deal-with-claim-form-2-from-cel-july-04/ 

There have been recent problems with e-mails to the court so there is an alternative to submit on line via MCOL.  However - wait for b789 to see this and comment.  Are you able to be definitive that it was a multi visit that has been rolled up into a single event?

With an issue date of 19th July, you have until 4pm on Monday 28th July to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 11th August to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Normally, we would advise that a defence be submitted as an attachment to an email. However, due to a systemic failure in the CNBC, defences are getting lost and default judgments are being issued which are a procedural nightmare to get set aside, even when you have evidence of having submitted the defence in the first place.

So, we are, for the time being, advising that you use the MCOL to submit the defence. The reason we don't normally advise this is because there are some formatting a character count limitations with the MCOL. However, I have adapted the defence and draft order to fit and, hopefully retain most of the necessary formatting for clarity.

If you follow this advice, you will not pay a penny to ECP as the claim will either be struck out or discontinued before the claimant has to pay the £27 trial fee. So, copy and paste the following into the defence text box on MCOL as your defence and do not remove the line breaks:

Quote
1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant
asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no
debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately
disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim
(PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made
against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply
with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the
PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or
contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons)
why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract
(or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly
where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach
occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked
before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is
calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest,
damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the
parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is
sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant
cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out
similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately
comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of
Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or
explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity. In
comparable cases, judges have found that requiring further case
management steps in claims of modest value would be
disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective.
Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this
case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by
striking out the claim due to the Claimant’s failure to
adequately comply with CPR 16.4. In those cases, the court
further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring
further case management steps would be disproportionate and
contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge
struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an
amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be
made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars
of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim
do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because:
(a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause
(or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which
is (or are) relied on; and
(b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why
the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of
contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it
served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have
done pursuant to CPR PD 7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.

AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such that the
court considers it disproportionate and not in accordance with
the overriding objective to allot to this case any further share
of the court's resources by ordering further particulars of
claim and a further defence, each followed by further referrals
to the judge for case management.

ORDER:
1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or
stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at
this Court not more than 5 days after service of this order,
failing which no such application may be made.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thank you so much for the advice. I have submitted the Acknowledgment of Service and will also submit the defence as you outlined. Again please excuse my ignorance do I simply just copy and paste this or do I need to add anything further to this in regards to my claim number or any other details?

Thanks again.


I have submitted the Acknowledgment of Service and will also submit the defence as you outlined. Again please excuse my ignorance do I simply just copy and paste this or do I need to add anything further to this in regards to my claim number or any other details?

No, you don't need to add anything if you are using the MCOL to submit your defence. Simply copy and paste the text as provided as it is formatted to display correctly when the court print it out for the judge.

You only needed to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare your defence.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thanks

The issue date was the 9th July so I submitted a Aos to ensure I didn't run out of time to respond.

Hi,

I have submitted my defence. Is there anything else I need to do? How long will this usually take before I hear anything?

Thanks,

Steve

You'll receive a letter from HMCTS stating that your defence has been sent to the claimant. You will also receive a letter from the claimants representative that the defence has been received and that they intend to proceed. All normal boilerplate stuff.

You can search the forum for hundreds of identical cases.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain