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Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
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Before you do anything, show us the N1SDT Claim Form. We only need to see the page with the Particulars of Claim (PoC) on it. Only redact your personal info, the claim number and the MCOL password. Leave everything else on it visible, especially all dates.

Once I know the actual issue date, I can tell you your deadlines and how to respond.
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Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
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Thank you b789.

The claim form is here

https://imgur.com/a/MrdAr3X

Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
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With an issue date of 22nd April, you have until 4pm on Monday 12th May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 27th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of UK Parking Control Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

UK Parking Control Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
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Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
« Reply #18 on: »
Thank you very much b789, thank you very much

Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
« Reply #19 on: »
So since I have submitted suggested defence I have received an email from dcb legal stating that they will take the matter further. They say that they have filed N180 - direct questionnaire with the court.

I am now waiting for further documents from the court or mediation (?) .

What surprised me was Section F of their N18. I coy what it said -

F. About the hearing
Hearing venue
F1
At which County Court hearing centre would you prefer the small claims hearing to take place and why?

Claimant's home court

What would court decide to do if I would ask for the hearing to take place at my home court?

There’s a link to the email and N180

https://imgur.com/a/bI2LYPM

Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
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All as expected and boilerplate. Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
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Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
« Reply #21 on: »
Thank you very much, will definitely follow the steps once the letter arrives

Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
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So the court N180 paper version arrived. I have started filling it and the problem I ran into was that D1 would not allow me to type the full advised text....

It only fits in the following - ''I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only t''....

Didn't think that D1 would have a limited text availability. Unless it is my Adobe that plays up. 

Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
« Reply #23 on: »
Just put a text box over it and use 9pt Arial or Helvetica and it will fit!
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Re: DCB Legal Letter of Claim - Uk Parking Control Limited
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Thank you :)

Only posting this in case anyone else would have same issue in the future :)

I made a mistake by downloading the form and only then filling the information. That's what caused the text limit in D1 section.  It was Adobe Reader problem on Mac. I could not use a text box either as was getting a message that this is adobe premium function.

However, once I opened the N180 on Safari, I was able to fill the D1 section without any text limit. Once the form was filled, I could download and send it to all of required parties including copy to myself in same email.
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