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Hi all,

First things first, on behalf of everyone who has received help from this forum, I salute you!!  I stumbled across this site looking for help and it looks like it doesn't dissapoint  :)

I have received a county court claim as the registered keeper of my vehicle parked at Southgate Park, Stansted.  Particulars of the claim are as follows:

 
Claimant: MET PARKING SERVICES LTD
 
Claimant solicitor: DCB LEGAL LTD
Telephone: 0203 434 0433
Reference: ************
 
Claim amount: £ 270.48
 
Particulars of claim: 1. THE DEFENDANT (D) IS INDEBTED TO THE      CLAIMANT (C) FOR A PARKING CHARGE(S) (PC)    ISSUED TO VEHICLE ******* AT (346) SOUTHGATE PARK, STANSTED, CM24 1PY.                    2. THE DATE OF CONTRAVENTION IS 17/02/2024   AND THE D WAS ISSUED WITH PC(S) BY THE       CLAIMANT                                     3. THE DEFENDANT IS PURSUED AS THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE FOR BREACH OF THE TERMS ON THE   SIGNS (THE CONTRACT). REASON:OVERSTAY        4. IN THE ALTERNATIVE THE DEFENDANT IS       PURSUED AS THE KEEPER PURSUANT TO POFA 2012, SCHEDULE 4.                                  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS                      1. £170 BEING THE TOTAL OF THE PC(S) AND     DAMAGES.                                     2. INTEREST AT A RATE OF 8% PER ANNUM        PURSUANT TO S.69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT    1984 FROM THE DATE HEREOF AT A DAILY RATE OF £.02 UNTIL JUDGMENT OR SOONER PAYMENT.       3. COSTS AND COURT FEES     

Until now I have binned all letters regarding the PCN, a strategy that has worked with previous PCN's!  (I know, I'm an idiot...)  From what I can remember, the vehicle was parked for 15 minutes and 1 second, no ticket purchased. I am not sure what time the alleged offence took place.

I have not appealed the PCN.  I do not have any of the letters regarding the PCN.  I have no photos of the signs in the car park. 

I have read that it is not lawful to hold me liable for the PCN as I'm the registered keeper of the vehicle due to Southgate Park being within the airport boundry, meaning POFA 2012 section 4 does not apply.

I have limited time to respond to the claim, and to make matters worse, my dog ate a portion of the letter I received notifying me of the claim!!  (I've read the rules, I'm not lying!!)  I don't have the password to reply to the claim online.  I have spoke to the court who have emailed me the details of the claim along with the relevant forms for me to comlpete.  They have granted me a 14 day extension in which to send in my response, which I believe is from the date of the email (22/04/25).


Can anybody give me any advice on how to deal with this?  Am I a lost cause??  I can't bear to hand over money to these b******s without putting up a fight...

Thank you in advance,

Rainbow  :)





 

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Re: DCB Legal Court Claim Stansted Southgate Park - Please Help!!!
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Easily defended. However, what is the issue date of the claim?

I’m assuming the “court” you spoke to is the CNBC. Do you have it in writing from them anything about this “extension” someone has supposedly “granted” you?

All dates are vitally important and you must not forget to include them. Without knowing the issue date of the claim and the content of this unusual information from the CNBC, it is difficult to advise properly.

However, assuming you have not missed your deadline for submitting your defence, follow this advice:

Here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of MET Parking Services Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

MET Parking Services Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: DCB Legal Court Claim Stansted Southgate Park - Please Help!!!
« Reply #2 on: »
Hi,

Thank you for the reply and advice.

The extension was given over the phone when I called to ask for the paperwork to be reposted to me after the original was chewed by my dog.

Unless I have got it wrong…I will check the email when I get home, just about to do the school run…

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« Reply #3 on: »
What was the issue date on the original?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Hi,

I have just contacted the CNBC.  It seems I have messed up already!

The issue date of the claim was 13/04/25.  The deadline for submitting the acknowledgement of service has passed already (27/04/25).  The extension I believed to have been granted was for submitting the acknowledgement of service, which I haven't done yet and I am told I can no longer do this.

The lady I spoke to has advised me to send in my defence forms immediately as the claimant has not acted yet.  I'm told if they contact the CNBC they can request the case to be closed and a CCJ be issued.

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my original post, and for the defence you have provided.  I shall fill out my details and send it as you have instructed immediately.  Hopefully I'm not too late...

Rainbow  :) 


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« Reply #5 on: »
Someone is telling you utter bolleaux. With an issue date of 13th April, you have until 4pm on Friday 2nd May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Friday 16th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, you have the defence, just submit that.

If it was someone at the CNCB who told you that, you need to make a formal complaint and get the CNBC to properly train their admin staff. A claim that is issued through MCOL has 5 days for service. The 14 days for completing the AoS is from the date of deemed service, not the issue date. Also, if the 14th day is on a weekend or public holiday, it is the next working day that is the deadline.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: DCB Legal Court Claim Stansted Southgate Park - Please Help!!!
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Thanks for the reply.

I have just looked at what is left of the letter from the CNBC.  The issue date on the letter is  08/04/25, not 13/04/25.

From the telephone conversation I had with CNBC it was stated that i had until 27/04/25 to acknowledge the claim, and as this has passed already the best thing to do would be send in the defence immediately. 

I have sent the defence you provided, along with the draft order, trying to follow your instructions exactly.  I'm not very good with computers, it took me all morning to combine the two as a PDF!!

The CNBC lady did state that the claimant had not pursued the matter yet, and as she said I should send the defence statement I'm assuming they will still consider it and the lateness will be forgiven.

What are your thoughts on this?  It's all jargon to me so any advice or general ideas about how this could go will be really welcome. 

Thank you for all you have done so far, it really is appreciated.

Rainbow  :)

Re: DCB Legal Court Claim Stansted Southgate Park - Please Help!!!
« Reply #7 on: »
The "lady" is still wrong. A deadline can never be on a weekend or public holiday. So, even with an issue date of 8th April, the deadline would have been 4pm yesterday, not on Sunday. However, you are stillest the deadline but as you have now submitted your defence, the claimant cannot now get a default judgment unless they tried overnight. There is no human intervention if they try to obtain a default CCJ. However, once they have pressed the button, it has to to logged at the CNBC and then the judgment made, which would take at least 24 hours to complete.

Unless the driver has been identified, this is not going to go anywhere. The claim will either be struck out after allocation or DCB Legal will discontinue before the trial fee has to be paid.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: DCB Legal Court Claim Stansted Southgate Park - Please Help!!!
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Well it was stated that no action had been taken by the claimant so I guess all is good!

The driver has not been identified as far as I know, I think the claim is against me as the registered keeper (which I believe is unlawful anyway due to the car park being within the airport boundary).

I guess all thats left to do is wait and see what happens...

Thank you for all your help with this, I shall update the post as soon as I hear anything.

Rainbow  :)

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So we have some movement on this case.  I received this from DCB legal…

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I haven’t responded to DCB.  The deadline they gave has passed.
My thought process was that at this stage I would be better off not communicating with them directly, waiting instead for instructions from the CCBC.  I have not communicated with DCB as of yet.
Is this a last ditch attempt by DCB to get me to fold??  The last paragraph makes me think it is.

Any thoughts or advice on this?  As always, any help will be much appreciated.

Rainbow.

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Standard letter from them as you say.
Stay on top of the process but otherwise ignore.

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Thank you.  It feels like they are trying to encourage me to settle to prevent the hearing from going ahead if that makes sense.
I am quite happy to see how this plays out 😁

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DCB Legal will be trying to persuade you to settle right up to the last minute before they fold and discontinue the claim. Stay strong. This will never reach a hearing because they would get a spanking in court. It's all part of their M.O. to try and get the low-hanging fruit to pay up out of ignorance and fear.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thank you.  It’s a shame it probably won’t go to the hearing, it would be interesting to see them getting a good spanking 😁