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Hello,

In July, I received letters from DCB stating that I had a £160 fine for “failure to pay for parking,” supposedly from 5 January 2023. No time, CCTV, or photographs were provided to show that I was actually there. I also made no returns that day, spent no money on my card (I rarely carry cash), and had no reason to be in Bolton Town Centre.

I ignored the first letter because I assumed it was a scam—this was the first I had ever heard of it and I hadn’t received anything before July. I’ve now received some worrying letters, but I’ve seen that situations like this are often resolved with some guidance. I’d really appreciate help understanding where to start and what the process is. I’ve read a lot of forums but the acronyms are confusing, and I don’t want to make any mistakes.
Thank you so much!

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Re: DCB - HM Courts and tribunals
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I will bet you £100 that there is absolutely no mention of the word "fine" in any of the correspondence you have about this.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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If you follow the advice (and please don't show us any more documents unless requested to do so) you will not be paying a penny to anyone over this.

With an issue date of 18th November, you have until 4pm on Monday 8th December to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 22nd December to submit your defence.

You only need to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare your defence. If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far.

You will need to copy and paste it into the defence text box on MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the 122 lines limit.

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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with PD 16, para 7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out materially similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.

5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found that requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim due to the Claimant’s failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to PD 7C, para 5.2, but chose not to do so.

AND upon the Court determining, having regard to the overriding objective (CPR 1.1), that it would be disproportionate to direct further pleadings or to allot any further share of the Court’s resources to this claim (for example by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, with consequent case management).

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.

2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 7 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: DCB - HM Courts and tribunals
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Thank you so much. That is all done. I cannot thank you enough as I had no idea where to start! What usually happens next? It has been completely stressful. And yes, "Unpaid Parking Charge."

Re: DCB - HM Courts and tribunals
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What usually happens next?

Just have a search of the forum and read any of the hundreds of similar claims.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Hello again,

I have received the Notice of Proposed Allocation to the Small Claims Track. I am able to complete most of the form but would appreciate some advice regarding the mediation appointment. I am a teacher, so it is very difficult for me to leave a class in order to take part in a phone call. Should I therefore limit my availability quite strictly on the form?

The notice is dated 9 January, but I only received it yesterday and the deadline given is 26 January. This feels like a short turnaround — is this normal?

The form also states that I must “serve copies on all other parties.” I find the wording of the court letters quite confusing and would appreciate clarification on what this means in practice.

Finally, DCB Legal have been calling me weekly and leaving automated messages asking me to return the call urgently. Is this standard practice?

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

Re: DCB - HM Courts and tribunals
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  • Yes, be precise about your availabilty.
  • Send copies of anything you send to court to DCB Legal as well, at the same time.
  • Do not return their calls, hang up if you answer, block their number if you can.

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Thank you so much.
Do I get a date or time for mediation or is it just anytime in the next three months?
When I do get the phone call, what are the specific things I ask?
Thanks again!

Re: DCB - HM Courts and tribunals
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  • They give you a vague time interval, so you need to be clear if you’re only available between specific times, ie lunch hour or whatever.
  • You offer £0 to settle, your offer will not be accepted, it will be over in minutes. More discussion if you search the forum for “mediation”.
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