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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #75 on: February 28, 2025, 02:42:49 pm »
On what date did they pay the hearing fee? If it was after 4pm on the deadline date, the claim was struck out.
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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #76 on: February 28, 2025, 07:36:12 pm »
I have no idea, all they told me on the phone was that the hearing is happening as scheduled as it was paid for, so thats what im going with.

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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #77 on: March 11, 2025, 10:40:01 pm »
On what date did they pay the hearing fee? If it was after 4pm on the deadline date, the claim was struck out.

I am going to court tomorrow. I phoned and apparently so are they. Do you have any tips/advice for court and/or do I need to bring any specific documents or anything with me?

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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2025, 10:52:38 pm »
Take copies of your defence, WS and exhibits with you. Ideally one for you, one for the judge, and one for the claimant's representative (they should both have them already, but reduces the chance of any shenanigans if not).

It can feel daunting the first time but the thing to remember is, you're not on trial at the Old Bailey, and you know the details of your case better than either of the other two parties - the claimant's representative has likely barely had time to read the details of the case before turning up to represent them. Be polite and speak in plain English.

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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2025, 11:48:30 pm »
Make yourself a crib sheet to cover all the points you need to make. Make a note to ask for your costs if you are successful. You can claim up to £95 for lost earnings and transport and parking costs.

Know your defence and Witness Statement.

Arrive early in order to go through any security measures they have in place. You can let the usher know you are there. The claimants representative may try to befriend you and play mind games. DO not let them. Tell them politely that you are not prepared to discuss anything unless it is in front of the judge.

Remember, the claimants advocate will know very little about the claim and will only have been given the bundle the night before or even only a few hours earlier. You are at an advantage.

Here is a short video to show you what to expect. As @DWMB2 states, it is not the Old Bailey with wigs and robes:

When a County Court Hearing Takes Place in a Judge’s Chambers

Good luck for tomorrow and please let us know the outcome, either way. It is good if you can remember the judges name (for your court report to us). You call the judge "Judge", not "your honour" or "m'lud".
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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #80 on: March 13, 2025, 10:59:44 pm »
Thanks guys. In the end I just took my evidence (bank statement) and this was enough as I won.

Anyway, here's what happened for those interested.

The judge said that the witness statement given was fairly copy + paste and some of it was not relevant (basically she knew I hadn't written it and it wasn't done by a lawyer). I am not blaming you guys as it was better than anything I could have came up with. However, she didn't go into any further details.

However, it was pretty evident that she slammed their statement much harder and said it was confusing and 'strange'. In other words, she wasn't really disappointed with mine but was with theirs.

In fact, it's almost like the lawyer didn't really understand the assignment either. In the end, they tried claiming I'd entered the wrong reg but had no proof. Not only this but because I'd used the car park before and after on other dates, she could see I was not doing anything malicious even if I did enter in the wrong registration.

Overall it was a pretty big waste of time all things considered but I'm glad I won and wanted to say thanks for helping me through the entire process.
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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #81 on: March 14, 2025, 12:26:45 am »
A win is a win. Thanks for letting us know the outcome. Do you remember the judges name?

I'm disappointed that she thought the your WS was a copy and paste... it wasn't. It doesn't;t matter if you did not write or compose it but only that you agreed it was a true statement that you were prepared to sign.
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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #82 on: March 14, 2025, 12:44:28 am »
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I'm disappointed that she thought the your WS was a copy and paste
The OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but my reading of this is that she probably (a) knew the OP had not written the WS himself, and (b) knew he had not engaged a lawyer, and put those together To conclude it had been copied and pasted from somewhere.

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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #83 on: March 14, 2025, 10:49:25 am »
I am due to go to court in 2 weeks in a similar case, were you able to claim any costs back after winning?
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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2025, 11:37:13 am »
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I'm disappointed that she thought the your WS was a copy and paste
The OP can correct me if I'm wrong, but my reading of this is that she probably (a) knew the OP had not written the WS himself, and (b) knew he had not engaged a lawyer, and put those together To conclude it had been copied and pasted from somewhere.

Yeah, that is probably my understanding of it. I can't remember her name either. It wasn't a harsh criticism from her either, just a general observation that it was fairly generic. Obviously though, it's better than anything a regular person could write up so I'm not complaining!

Thanks again.

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Re: Court Claim for Not purchasing a ticket (I did)
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2025, 03:00:35 pm »
So, a simple win on the basis that the claimant hadn't proved their claim when compared with the assertion underpinning the defendant's case: I can prove I paid.

OP, sadly I fear that this will not prove to be a salutary experience for the claimant who'll probably continue with their General Melchett philosophy:

'If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.'